Mechanical dwell theory...

[DavidBoren]

Can we restart this discussion?

We had a really good explanation, and a parts list that included manufacturer's parts numbers for the necessary pneumatics.

I keep winning these $10-$15/shipped auctions for Intimidator parts and eventually they will need put together, so I figured if I pioneered the discussion I might retain some of the information from it.

The theory is to use a flow control valve and a piloted 5-way to create an inherent dwell in the system that you can control via the flow control valve. By limiting the flow to the pilot, you can adjust how quickly the pilot activates.

We had a much more in depth explanation, and included a way to use half the system to run a mechanical FASOR. AND someone who had a working mech Timmy.

I believe that the flow control valve is the Clippard MFC-3B. And I think the 5-way was an SMC SYJA 3000 series, but I can't remember the specifics of the part number (for port layout and such).

[DavidBoren]

I don't think the 5-way has the pilot... I think there's a piloted 3-way in here somewhere.

LPR ->
Limit valve @ trigger ->
T-fitting ->
A) ???
B) one went to the flow control valve/pilot

What was the rest of this riddle?

[the_hyren]

Here we go again!

So the idea came to me from the clippard pulse valve, a nearly fist sized 5 cycles per second turd made of solid enp'd brass.
It is in essence a 3 way that leaks into its own pilot.
So the goal is to use a clippard smav or fabco msv-2 to convert lpr air and trigger pulls into pneumatic signals.
From there you add the "pulse valve" set up:
The input is tee'd into a 1 way (input) flow controller with reverse check valve from clippard and the pressure input of a 3 way, normally open.
Smc syja series being the smallest and therefore most ideal, though they have a 125psi max so an lpr using marker is recommended.
The output of the pulse valve is the output of the 3 way and the output of the flow controller goes into the pilot of the 3 way.
From here you can fire fasor style markers or use another valve to cycle the marker.
In the case of sft/nxt/timmy/dm you need a 5 way.
In the case of blow forwards like the ion or proto rail, your need another normally open 3 way.

Also I recommend getting the flow controller with the little flat head adjuster rather than the knob, it is less likely to adjust itself in your marker and is smaller.
Space inside the grip frame is always a huge issue. Serious tetris skills required and possibly some dremel action.

I have a nice silver/black/gold tri-fade aim intimidator that I just need a 2k2/5 frame I like to do up one of these myself.
Been slowly working on a blue strange sft as well but the frame has been troublesome to get modded.