i'll play , i was in the midst of an old Autococker rescue and have more parts on the way, at the time I read this. I assume that is ok, and can hop in on this.......?
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Since the question has popped up a couple times-
If you have an existing project in the early stages, that's fine; however, the budget rule applies to any parts you purchased specifically for the build. E.G. no "parts bin" exception just because you spent the money before the contest was announced.
Example: Smurf22 is working on a beat up 98. He goes shopping for parts buys a Tech-T Super Bolt for $35, a Zero-Kick hammer for $50. When the contest was announced he decided he just had to have a Rocket Cock for $40. Thus, when Smurf22 discovers he needs new o-rings, he's disqualified for going over budget.
Example: JollyGreenGiant67 also has a 98. He bought an aluminum powertube for $17. He already has most of an RT kit from a mystery box purchase a few years back, so he only has to count the $5 for a couple pieces of micro hose to hook it up. He gets a new barrel for $30, and because he has so much left, he splurges on a Duracoat kit for $60, and still has $13 to pick up a parts kit.
Example: Smurf22 wises up, and removes the bolt and hammer. Now he can afford that $13 parts kit. He also buys a set of Dremel attachments (doesn't count--tooling!) buzzes off the "98 CUSTOM" marking and carves a free-hand replica of Delacroix's "Liberty Leading the People" in its place. Then he rattle cans the rest of the marker ($10) and finishes with a clear coat ($10) to protect that Dremel art. Thus, Smurf22's total cost comes in at $73 and he's back in the race. After the contest is over, Smurf22 puts his silly overpriced aftermarket parts back in the gun because it's still a free country, after all.
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Originally posted by Spider! View PostJust saying, in the past we've had lights and speakers on some entries. While not that impressive in the build thread, the accompanying play video made the speaker equipped marker a top contender in the voting.Dulce et decorum est pro comoedia mori
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Sounds fun. I guess I will need figure out exactly what pile of junk I will be converting into slightly more organized and shinier junk.
How should we price 3d printed parts? Does R&D and test prints count? Should we be weighing the final piece and doing complex math to determine price per ounce? Should we consider the entire roll at full price?
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Originally posted by crazedloon View PostSounds fun. I guess I will need figure out exactly what pile of junk I will be converting into slightly more organized and shinier junk.
How should we price 3d printed parts? Does R&D and test prints count? Should we be weighing the final piece and doing complex math to determine price per ounce? Should we consider the entire roll at full price?
- no charge for design (for small parts)
- price part by weight ($25/kilogram),
- plus an hourly rate for print time (~$0.75/hr),
- plus profit margin (~100% markup)Rainmaker's feedback: https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...maker-feedback
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Dang it you guys keep coming up with new ways to complicate this thing.
I'd say, count the weight of the finished part as it comes off the printer (e.g. before trimming support structure, sanding, drilling, whatever) in accordance with the cost of the material.
If you were turn parts on a lathe, we wouldn't count the labor cost of your own machining time. In the same way, if somebody screws up soldering, throws out a bunch of brass tubes and starts over, we wouldn't charge him for the mistake, so I don't think we should count R&D/screw ups.
If you pay someone for design work or you have it printed by a third party then count the actual cost.
Does that sound fair and reasonable?Dulce et decorum est pro comoedia mori
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i'm in:
Here is my starting point, What looks to be parts of a pretty rough old Trracer Tagmaster rental and a cut up 10/22 stock https://i.imgur.com/2BqAe70.jpg in adherence to the rules, here is a done pic in the first post: https://i.imgur.com/tNwUdVX.jpg Also, total budget was $29.12 for the SSC trracer to autococker barrel"but we all have electros and you guys only have pumps, this wont be fair"
(chuckling quietly) "we know"
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