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    Fun with Travel Insurance

    Sharing this in hopes is helps someone in a similar position.

    As has happened to many people I had to cancel my vacations plans this year due to Covid. It’s my wife and I’s 10 year anniversary so we decided to do a big trip to a tropical location in April. Obviously the trip was canceled and thankfully I had purchased travel insurance.

    As we used a big chunk of credit card points we used the travel agent suggested by our credit card and purchased insurance through the travel agency’s suggested insurance agency (which gives them commission).

    We had booked and paid for everything by early February and We cancelled the trip in mid-March, just after the March 13th announcement for Canadians to return home from abroad. We promptly submitted our insurance claim and waited patiently for any information. I’d check online, made an initial phone call but was told things were heavily delayed due to all the cancelations, and the was completely understandable. They were looking at 120 timeframe for cases.

    I then waited until June/July, and having heard nothing I started to make further inquiries. I spoke with someone at the company my insurer used to settle their claims and asked for an update or any information. They couldn’t give me any timelines, of course. But not soon after I made the phone call I receive an email asking for proper documentation. Fine, no problem, make a few phone calls get get my travel agent and travel provider to send in the proper paperwork... and hear nothing for almost another month.

    In August I start to call into the phone line again, am basically told the onus is on me to provide the proper paperwork or my claim gets denied. I told them I was going my best and I have to rely on my travel agent and travel provider to give me those documents as I don’t have them. This was my first request to speak to a supervisors I was now worried they were going to deny my claim. I was told a supervisor would contact me within three days. I then made calls to my travel agent to straight out the documentation.

    Four days later I call back in, putting a second request to speak to a supervisor and confirming my first request was noted. I also confirmed that my phone calls were being recorded and could be referenced if needed and I wanted to receive a copy of the notes on my file, if possible, so that I would see work was being done as it was now over 150+ days since I made my claim. After a lot of discussion I was told that a supervisor would contact me.

    Later that day, once I returned from work, I received a letter from my travel insurance provider stating that my claim had been conditionally denied and I needed to submit my documentation to their claims appeal division. To say I was furious was an understatement as I was actively attempting to deal with my claim.

    So the next day I call the support number again and talk to yet another front line phone agent. I ask why I had received the letter when I was actively attempting to get the proper paperwork and was still, for over a week, waiting to receive a call back from a supervisor. I demanded to speak to a supervisor immediately but was told that wasn’t possible. So after a lengthy period of time of me politely but firmly chewing out this poor lady on the phone over being provided a denial letter I was told I would be getting a phone call from a supervisor.

    So finally a supervisor does call me and happily informs me that they will be paying my insurance claim. This was great news, but hadn’t gotten any new documentation to them so so asked why they were now covering my claim. They never bothered to look at the paperwork provided in July..... WTF. I had just wasted hours of my time, along with my travel agent and travel provider’s time because they couldn’t be bothered to actually look at my documents. But at least my claim got paid, either only my airfare purchased with credit card points remaining to be sorted out.

    So if you are getting the run-around from your travel insurance agency keep at them. I have no doubt that if I did not push this matter I would have not received any insurance coverage.



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    #2
    Sounds like they are paying you to go away. Good work
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      #3
      Very well could be. My claim is legitimate and I had more than enough insurance to cover my expenses.
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        #4
        I actually had the opposite experience with travel insurance once. My wife and I traveled to Iceland and I was the stupid American who traveled in shorts and a t-shirt with only a light fleece jacket. Once we got to Iceland, we found out our bags missed the plane and would be delayed a day which included all my winter gear. We had plans to do outdoors things on our first day so we decided it was best for me to buy some winter gear.

        First we noticed that Icelandic technical clothing was crazy expensive but I bought about $600 of pants and jacket anyway. Once we got home, we talked to our travel agent about the experience and she said the travel insurance would cover that stuff. It was very little hassle and within a few weeks we had a check.

        My only regret is that I didn't but more stuff. That was 12 years ago and the Icelandic stuff is still better than anything we can buy in the US.

        Now if only I can remember what insurance company we used.
        "but we all have electros and you guys only have pumps, this wont be fair"

        (chuckling quietly) "we know"

        My collection:
        Memornix's Collection V2 - mcarterbrown.com

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          #5
          Our vacation this year was also canceled. We had booked a trip to London and Paris last December for this August and September. We don't buy travel insurance anymore because the last time we did and needed to use it the exclusions made the insurance useless. They pretty much have enough clauses in there where they can say pretty much anything isn't a covered reason.

          Luckily due to the global pandemic we didn't lose any money on the cancellations of this trip. We got refunded from everyone except Delta who gave us a credit that is good for 2 years. There were a couple tours and museums that originally weren't going to refund us but they all ended up refunding. We were going to do an AirBnb in Paris and the host contacted us early on and offered us a full refund if we wanted.

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            #6
            Other than being ungodly expensive, how was Iceland? My wife and I have been eyeballing it, along with the Azores.
            “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” -Krishnamurti

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              #7
              Originally posted by lew View Post
              Other than being ungodly expensive, how was Iceland? My wife and I have been eyeballing it, along with the Azores.
              I can't recommend it enough and If you go, make sure to take some of the guided excursions. We are normally self guided folk who don't like taking lame group trips, but in Iceland they were definitely up to snuff. We stayed in Reykjavik as a base and traveled from there. We heard about the amazing night life in town but around 7:30pm everything was closed and it wasn't until the end of our trip that we figured it out. All the restaurants closed just after dinner and reconfigured to clubs and bars then reopened later at night.

              As for the excursions, they put you in Land Cruisers or similar with giant tires that would be illegal in the US and off you go. We hiked glaciers to volcanos, saw lots of geothermal things, swam in random hot springs in the middle of nowhere, etc.

              We are also not travel agent people, but hiring one for the Iceland trip was the best thing we did. She knew what was good and what we could skip.

              Also, as I said above, if you are into the outdoors and can afford it, take extra money and buy some outdoors clothing while you are there. I got stuff made by Zo-on and it is far and away better than any US brand.
              "but we all have electros and you guys only have pumps, this wont be fair"

              (chuckling quietly) "we know"

              My collection:
              Memornix's Collection V2 - mcarterbrown.com

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              • lew
                lew commented
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                Top-notch info. My wife and I are definitely not tour group-friendly, but we'll consider that advice. It's a tiny country, so getting around shouldn't be much of an issue.

                I have outdoor clothing for every possible climatic scenario one could imagine barring a prolonged trip to the poles in winter; I really don't need more. 

                Much appreciated!

              #8
              everyone should be buying all travel related expenses with their american express card. at least on my card, they automatically add insurance to everything. and they deal with everything on their end. hell, one time i WRECKED a parked car with my moving truck. i used my amex rent the truck. i called them up after the accident, told them what happened, gave them my rental truck info, police report, and that's it. they literally took care of everything. it was amazing.

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              • bellicose

                bellicose

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                This is part of the reason Amex isn't accepted everywhere. They protect the card holder, not the business it was used on. I like my Amex card, sad that the company changed to Visa.

              • lew
                lew commented
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                That's all well and good, except for the fact that AMEX has a long history of fucking over businesses- THE reason they aren't accepted everywhere- to wit, their animosity toward the firearms industry is something that's been known for at least forty years.

              • Falcon16

                Falcon16

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                Which is hilarious RE: Amex as pretty much all the cards do that. They have more than enough businesses that accept them to not give a rat's ass if they piss off one business. In the end the cardholder is the one making them money not the business as in one specific business over one transaction.

              #9
              We were able to cancel all of our trip reservations except for the non refundable fees of a total of $50.

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                #10
                Been to both and if I had to pick one, it would be Iceland. We went back in 2016 and just rented a car to drive the ring road which basically circles the entire country. It's expensive but not really much worse than say London except for in the rural areas - in some of the towns we stopped in, it was $20 burgers but these are pretty remote places. Was planning to go back this year in Winter (we went in June) to try to see Northern Lights but obviously that's pushed.

                Did the Azores in 2018 - just flew into Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel Island for a 2 days stopover on way to Lisbon. Rented a car and drove the island, very beautiful and more flowers and color than Iceland. But it doesn't quite take your breath away that Iceland does. Much better food though.

                Originally posted by lew View Post
                Other than being ungodly expensive, how was Iceland? My wife and I have been eyeballing it, along with the Azores.

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                • lew
                  lew commented
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                  My wife, being a Brasileira, speaks Portuguese, and I can navigate my way through most any Germanic language with little difficulty, so it's a draw on linguistics. Travel time is about the same. Maybe, we should hit them both in one extended trip...

                • Memornix
                  Memornix commented
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                  Yeah, the food in Iceland was expensive and I can't say it was even that good. I mostly considered the food there a source of calories rather than an exciting culinary experience.

                  We are considering a return trip with another couple where myself and the other husband road bike the ring road while the wives meet us at various locations in the evenings. With a stop at Silfra for scuba diving.
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