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RESPECT ME AND MY PINK RIMS!!!
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I'm a night owl. My last job, transport, was graveyard shift. Loved that. Especially when half the work was on the other side of a city that takes an hour and a half to get from one hospital to another during the day.
Interviewing before that, I got the stupid bait-and-switch a couple times. And my filter kind of turned off after the first time I got disrespected like that. "The listing started at $X. Why are you telling me less?" Then watch them sputter and try to justify that. Always walked after that point. At one, we stood up at the end, and they asked me if I could start next week. "For more than $X?" "I thought I said $X- earlier?" "And you advertised $X. So no."
I haven't set foot back in there, and they've been listing and had a 'help wanted' sign since. It's been years.
Boo hoo hoo, no one wants to work. No, no one wants to be taken advantage of. There's a reason it's a revolving door. People want work. They want honest bosses more. Guess which one's harder to come by? If they can't find or keep help, it's because they don't pay or treat them as well as somewhere else will.
Then I got the transport job, eventually got sniped by the county. Hate having to start at 6AM, but I work 4x10, don't get called at all random times of the day and night whether I'm scheduled or not, I've got good benefits, and my immediate bosses are great. Well, one's got some serious Small Dog Syndrome when he's in a mood, but he's still honest and his higher-ups kind of understand when I snap back.Last edited by Deus Machina; 04-29-2023, 08:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Deus Machina View PostI'm a night owl. My last job, transport, was graveyard shift. Loved that. Especially when half the work was on the other side of a city that takes an hour and a half to get from one hospital to another during the day.
Interviewing before that, I got the stupid bait-and-switch a couple times. And my filter kind of turned off after the first time I got disrespected like that. "The listing started at $X. Why are you telling me less?" Then watch them sputter and try to justify that. Always walked after that point. At one, we stood up at the end, and they asked me if I could start next week. "For more than $X?" "I thought I said $X- earlier?" "And you advertised $X. So no."
I haven't set foot back in there, and they've been listing and had a 'help wanted' sign since. It's been years.
Boo hoo hoo, no one wants to work. No, no one wants to be taken advantage of. There's a reason it's a revolving door. People want work. They want honest bosses more. Guess which one's harder to come by? If they can't find or keep help, it's because they don't pay or treat them as well as somewhere else will.
Then I got the transport job, eventually got sniped by the county. Hate having to start at 6AM, but I work 4x10, don't get called at all random times of the day and night whether I'm scheduled or not, I've got good benefits, and my immediate bosses are great. Well, one's got some serious Small Dog Syndrome when he's in a mood, but he's still honest and his higher-ups kind of understand when I snap back.RESPECT ME AND MY PINK RIMS!!!
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Chicagoland has some great trade unions. Apply to some, learn a skill and get some good money and benefits.
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If onyl finding a union job was as easy as signing up for it. It seems like you have to know somebody in order to get into them.
To add to that, I interviewed for a UAW job that was an absolutely JOKE when it came to pay. They were offering low $20, regardless if they had bene there for 1 month, or 60 years. Just cuz it's a union job doesn't mean it's going to be good. The benefits were pretty solid, but the pay was an absolute joke. Whoever is doing the bargaining for them was doing a super shitty job.
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A 'friend of a friend' of mine located in the central Southern area of Florida runs a "small" landscape company. He owns it, supplies the equipment, and finds the work. He has two people under him that actually drive out, cut/weed. He won a very meager PART of a contract for some local government work a couple of years ago, and alongside his normal work has made well over a million dollars all in the past two years. Obviously has expenses out of that, but the point being that if any company is in a position to need help and advertise it, they may not be THAT high in the cotton, but $16.50 is an insult.
Just as an aside to the comments above about the grocery business. Most of the bigger names in that industry are unionized and offer benefits that are typically pretty good. It is a VERY good idea if you are thinking about trying that line of work to go to a small or privately owned grocery and tough out some work there for nothing but the experience. I know for fact that two of the major chains here will start you at peanuts with no experience. Even a year at some mom and pop will literally double your starting pay walking in the door. Being union, they don't give merit raises, it is scale so you must start high to begin with. Coming up from the bottom with small % yearly raises takes well too long to make good money, and particularly after dues and insurance.
The plus side of that type work being it is pretty mindless and the grocery industry isn't going anywhere (if that is your goal).
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I am just going to say out loud that almost none of my own "Union" jobs worked out in a way that I considered beneficial to ME. Them, sure.
As I referenced above, I worked for a union grocery that paid me peanuts walking in without experience. After working there for over a year, I found out that the next nearest person doing the EXACT same job as me was making twice what I was. The manager and union rep of that location called me unethical and unprofessional when I asked them for protected equal work for equal pay.
My other major experience was working for a contractor within the package deliver sector and finding out that due to the type of position I held with that contractor, that not only was I being paid well less than the non contract(er) positions, but that the involved union was keeping a significant amount of what I was supposed to be getting paid. The aspect that really got my ass was the 'hidden' non compete clause that I signed while being rushed through "standard" paperwork on hire.
Unions WERE needed, and we may be reaching a point where they are needed again, but I personally feel that the average worker also needs reform and protections from those whom would be claiming to "fight" for workers rights while actually just adding another middleman expense to your bottom line. I don't feel this is the case in ALL unionized industries, but was my first hand experience with said.
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