Small paintballs, .670 on purpose to save money making them

[Ecapnation]

Slightly related but also kind of not.

For the love of God never pin standard check your freak inserts. They are laughably not intolerance from what they're shown. I mean really same goes for any of the barrels that are marked.

I have a few dye backs that say 684 but when I pin them actually we're 682.

It is interesting to think that they are shrinking the paint the same money and not an unrealistic assumption. But the fact that paintball could barely hold tolerances on anything is also the reality of it.

[iamthelazerviking]

Exactly, I only see bore markings as a somewhat close estimate to what it actually is lol. Freak inserts, especially aluminum, are horrible.

[JeeperCreeper]

As someone who is offering .670 inserts, it is what it is.

As a player, it sucks. Bad paint can make you not enjoy the day as much as you would with round, consistent paint.

I think it just goes right along with everything else these days. Everything is made to be as cheap as possible.

[DocsMachine]

Yeah, that used to bug me too, back in the day- I'd mic a barrel six ways from Sunday and only rarely was the bore what it said on the tin.

Butm the thing is, the actual number on the tube is irrelevant- think of it more as a "gas gauge". The gauge doesn't tell you that you have 14.864 gallons left, it just tells you the tank is about half full.

The paint itself varies by so much, not only ball-to-ball but from axis to axis on each individual ball. You fit the bore/barrel/back to whatever paint you're shooting that day. The number on the tube is just an indicator- they could just as easily say "#1, #2 and #3". #1 is too tight, #3 is too loose, so I'll use #2.

As for the actual measurement, given that any barrel is going to be polished, burnished and/or anodized, and no manufacturer is going to air-gauge and individually mark each one, of course there's going to be slight variances. The tool wore slightly, the machinist altered the tool offset slightly, then neglected to take that offset off when the insert got replaced. The anodizing shop found a small blemish on that part, so stripped it and annoed it again. An inspection showed a blemish in the bore, so it was sent through the polishing stage again. Etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Doc.

[Grendel]

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity [incompetence or give-a-F#*K] " - Robert J. Hanlon

[Sdawg]

I used it obsess over more matching but now I mainly just use an insert between 687-691 and call it a day. I'll use smaller inserts if I am using an autococker or not getting barrel breaks.

[Blackmagic71]

So when are we banding together to produce and market our own “MCB Massive Balls” paint?

“Old style Massive Balls… new mayo flavor!”

How expensive can one of those encapsulating machines really be?

[BrickHaus]

Before they officially called it quits, Nelson said they would make old spec paint if we bought enough.. It was something like 80 a case if we all banded together, but we never got enough people on board to get the whole pallet.

Plus one member would have to buy it outright, then ship it to everyone else.

[Heavy_D]

I volunteer to be a Labour dummy at the MCB plant haha

[Daltech]

This guy gets it.

[Blackmagic71]

Heck, when we’re not making paint we could apparently make MCB branded suppositories too!

https://www.amanmachinery.com/amp/Small-Paintball-Making-Machine-pd48784443.html

[uv_halo]

What needs to happen is somebody makes a .670 (smaller the better) ball that is denser so that it still weighs 3.11g Then, we'd have a ball that has a better hang time than .68.

[Frmrspec]

The paint getting smaller was originally to make a loader manufacturer’s superior product fail/jam more frequently

[Frmrspec]

Don’t need research. It was from a conversation with a friend that was very high up within a major company.. they changed shell formulation and size

[Socalpumpballer]

Seems like that backfired on the entire industry since every loader is now objectively worse and roll back issues have taken a toll on marker performance

[Frmrspec]

Objectively worse? Under what metrics? They are slower yes, but speed reduction was a byproduct of culture demands.. they are lighter, more reliable, and easier to maintain/service.. rollback is really only an issue in older markets which were created in a time you needed to account for massive paint.

[Ralo]

The paint getting smaller was originally to make a loader manufacturer’s superior product fail/jam more frequently

The Rotor?

I used some Defy last weekend, which was probably around .684. I don't worry about sizing much so I used my 688.

[Frmrspec]

Funny thing is if we went back to large paint, I’d be screwed.. all my from scratch made markers were machined to better suit much smaller paint..