Looking into building a Gaming PC

[Chuck E Ducky]

I play a lot of shooter games when I can't play paintball. I want a rig that will push high frame rates and take advantage of some of the newer monitors. I don't want flashy just a hardcore gaming rig.

Origin Put together this for me. I know nothing about the different systems Ryzen vs Intel. I just want to be able to run high frame rates and have that clear clean crisp view when playing online shooters. PC gamers have better field of view then console players and the frame rates they can push make a big difference. With the new Xbox coming out and my outdated iMac needing replacement soon. Im looking to replace them both with a one real good gaming PC. What would you change and why? (budget $3k)

Case: Corsair 678C
Processors: Intel Core i9 10850K 10-Core 3.6GHz (5.1GHz TurboBoost)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 Gaming EDGE WiFi
Memory: 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 3000MHz (2x8GB)
System Cooling: CORSAIR H100i PRO XT RGB
System Fans: CORSAIR SP120 PRO Performance iCUE RGB controlled by iCUE softwareGraphics Cards: NVIDIA 8GB GeForce RTX 3070
GPU: 1
Operating System: MS Windows 10 Home
Operating System Drive: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2
Power Supply: CORSAIR 850RM SERIES PLUS GOLD PSU
Audio: Integrated High-Definition Audio
Networking: Onboard Network Port

[Scottybeans]

That pc looks plenty fast to me. What resolution will you be playing at?

[Chuck E Ducky]

I was looking at something like this for monitor. I don't need big I want fast and clear. I actually prefer playing on a smaller screen. My BenQ gaming monitor changed my world with online gaming with my Xbox1. I never realized how slow a big screen TV actually is till I got the 1ms gaming monitor. It put me in the top 400 in the world on BF4 at one point.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-V...ondn01-20&th=1

[the_matrix_guy]

I've been building systems for many years. I'd make a few adjustments to get the absolute best performance and bang for your buck. Firstly, the CPU you selected is a bit of overkill for a gaming PC. Most games these days are more GPU-intensive, and the current trend is pointing towards that, we'll continue to see more and more optimization towards the GPU side-of-things, until literally GPU's will handle all of the gaming processing and leave the CPU to run the OS and background tasks. Right now, AMD has the best CPU's both in terms of performance and value. You could save money and literally still run everything you want. And use the savings towards a beefier card like the 3080 which will future-proof you for at least 4-5 years, (it's that good) and give you much greater performance in gaming. I'd consider a Ryzen 3 5000's series for round $250. It's the absolute best performance/price sweetspot for gaming right now. And you can use the savings to do a CPU and MOBO upgrade in 2-3 years, which will be much more beneficial than paying $500-600 on a CPU which you would not even take advantage of.I would also think about using the stock cooler and save some coin there, especially with the AMD stock cooler. They are absolutely phenomenal.

On the NVMe front: I would also look into Sabrent for your NVMe M2 drives. They are currently offering the best bang for your buck both in terms of performance and capacity. The 2TB is $250, which is pretty close to the Samsung 1TB price-wise, same performance. I'm currently running two of those. And finally, I would consider Gigabyte or Asus for mobo brands. MSI is great, but not quite as reliable as Gigabyte and Asus from my experience.

Welcome to the world of PC gaming/building. It's the best platform, hands down.

[Chuck E Ducky]

If I can save money I'm all for it. I just want to be able to run the latest games at max frame rates. I don't really plan to do much other then surf the internet and play games on it. I do enjoy competitive gaming so I want something that I could compete with. I just don't really know all that much about them. Figure now is a good time to jump into a good gaming PC.

So your saying I would be better off investing in a better GPU then the CPU? (somewhere in the middle)

[MrKittyCatMeowFace]

Id probably do with 32gb of memory but thats just because having plenty is better than just barely enough. My philosophy with building pc is build it with the best parts and it will last for years. Everything origin picked will run all the big games you want, with Mods too

make sure you get a monitor with a low refresh rate and lots of hz. 144hz and 1-2ms is good.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Good call it's only like $85 more for 32g. And defiantly going with a monitor designed specifically for gaming.

[Chuck E Ducky]

So this build is about $900 cheaper

Processors : AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT 3.8GHz (4.5GHz Max Boost)
Motherboard : MSI MEG X570 ACE
Memory : 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 3000MHz (2x8GB)
System Cooling : CORSAIR H100i PRO XT RGB
System Fans : ORIGIN PC Maximum Fan Kit
Graphics Cards : AMD RX 5700 XT RAW ll
GPU : 1
Operating System : MS Windows 10 Home
Operating System Drive : 250GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus PCIe NVMe M.2
Power Supply : CORSAIR 850RM SERIES PLUS GOLD PSU

[the_matrix_guy]

Memory is cheap right now, not many games will need more than 16 GB's but that will start changing in a couple of years, and you never know, memory prices fluctuate a lot, they can go up. That's very nice system. Don't be scared to mix and match an Nvidia GPU with an AMD CPU. Right now the best GPUs are Nvidia. And the best CPU's are AMD. And they work wonderfully together.

In regards to the NVMe, I'd get at least 2TB. There's no point in having the performance upside, if you can't have your whole system on it, especially your games:
I'm running two of these right now: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocke...s%2C212&sr=8-2

Also, AMD just announced its new line of CPU's, Zen 3, they will be similarly priced. That being said, I myself, I'm running a 3600X because I like to do CPU upgrades every 2-3 years. I'ts way better than buying high end CPU's which become obsolete and which offer ZERO benefits for gaming. And I run everything in ultra HD 1440p at max settings, and high FPS. At 1080 you'd get even higher FPS.

[Scottybeans]

Ryzen 5600x was just announced and is allegedly leaps and bounds faster than the 3000 series which was the last iteration. I’d swap out a 5600X or 5800x in the build above if I was going Ryzen.

also get 3200 MHz or 3600 MHz memory. I doubt it costs more than a few bucks more than 3000 MHz.

[the_matrix_guy]

I'd wait for reviews on the AMD video cards before considering them. Not only in terms of performance but also reliability; drivers, etc. Also, you'd miss out on DLSS on the Nvidia side. I think the 3080 will be the better mid-tier choice -- but I'm very much looking forward to the performance benchmarks.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Ok you guys seem to be pretty knowledgeable on the subject. It's like you are speaking another language. So far what I got is (more memory) balance a quality CPU with a quality GPU. Go with a Nvidia GPU and an AMD CPU.

[the_matrix_guy]

Yeah, so everyone's needs are different. A lot of those higher-end CPU's are designed to do other things like video editing, which is very CPU intensive. So you're better off putting your money towards a better video card, which you will take full advantage of. AMD just announced their new line of CPU's which will be even better than the current gen ones. As is, the current $250 punch way above their weight in gaming performance. The new ones should be even better. So as I alluded, there no need to shell out $600 on a gaming CPU, especially if you're shortchanging the video card. Additionally, they're also releasing their new GPU's alongside Nvidia. It might be worth it to wait and see how they compare. Although, I'm pretty sure Nvidia will be the better option. And on the NVME M2 SSD side, you want at least 2TB. The Sabrents are the best choice, currently, dollar/GB.

Also, just FYI, Nvidia has blown AMD out of the water in the last 10-15 years, video card wise. And even though they have narrowed the gap, I don't think they're quite at Nvidia's level. I'm upgrading to the 3080 or 3080 ti myself. And I'm currently running a 1080ti and 3600x CPU and I don't plan to upgrade the processor for a while. For gaming, it does everything I need and more. But if you're waiting for the video cards to come in stock, then you might as well jump on AMD's new CPU. That's what I'd do, personally.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Ok so now I have an idea what I’m looking for and why. I’m sure I will have more questions. Thanks for breaking it down for me.

[Deltasteve]

What those guys said.

This website helps you find the best deal on parts and can also be used as a reference to make sure everything plays well together before you buy.

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[Chuck E Ducky]

Awesome any and all shopping advice is great. I’m not afraid to build my own. I’m sure I could figure that out and probably save some money at the same time.