What's the most modern, available, in-line valve bore drop pump?

[XEMON]

Carter had a clamp around the body (and the frame?) On the front.

Could that allows you to have a body able to flip between left/center/right feed?

[flyweightnate]

The o-rings on an ASP detent mod body help the paint sit a bit higher, which honestly helps. Not much, but enough.

[The Inflicted]

You didn't fall in love with my old Empire Trracer?
I mean, we did win that tournament with it.

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[Grendel]

That is quite a conglomeration of parts......I like it!

[Mechstar]

Ok...now I have to see how that went together! What did it take to put a Trracer body/pump/internals on a Phantom frame and valve body????

Any Pictures?

[gabe]

Even with super brittle paint in the cold I've rarely had an issue with bore drop being the reason for breaking paint. More often that not it's the fact that the phantom is high pressure and blows up paint in the barrel rather than having an issue with chopping.

[Siress]

Where do you play? Most of the fields in New England have more than just one paint option.

The last time I played was at friendly fire; the second day of summer stock last year. That's my favorite field near here. They just had tournament paint, and it actually shot alright.

The ICD PRP looks interesting. I'll have to look up a diagram up for it. Might be difficult to use a regulator, UC kit, and stick feed.

You didn'tfall in love with my old Empire Trracer?
I mean, we did win that tournament with it.

I do recall enjoying it. Do those have an integrated bore or does the ball rest in the barrel bore?

[The Inflicted]

I do recall enjoying it. Do those have an integrated bore or does the ball rest in the barrel bore?

They're bore-drop, if that's what you're asking.
If you're making a finer distinction than that I have to admit to being too uncultured to know the difference.


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[pghp8ntballer]

By Siress’ question: bore drop, in-line valve, pump...

pump automag.

[The Inflicted]

Ok...now I have to see how that went together! What did it take to put a Trracer body/pump/internals on a Phantom frame and valve body????

Any Pictures?

Fitting the Phantom frame to the Trracer body is the easy part- all you really have to do is enlarge the front hole on a Phantom grip frame to allow the Trracer's larger grip frame screw to pass through. Unfortuntely, what I found out later was that when you put that frame back on a Phantom it will cause all kinds of trigger issues because there is now play between the frame and the body, but this can be fixed by putting a bit of heat shrink tubing around the Phantom's front grip screw to eliminate the gap.

Beyond that, all that's really needed to make the Trracer guts play nicely with the Phantom valve and trigger frame is to grind down the Trracer's sear- the stock one hangs down much too low. I contacted Simon Stevens, who designed the Empire Trracer, and he sent me a spare Trracer sear to play with.

I had pictures of all of this but that was in an old MCB thread from 2011, long lost to various netquakes.

To be honest, 99% of the time I ran this gun it was set up much more reasonably, like this:
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