Was it the impulse or shoebox?

[FredMnkyDad10]

Hey all,

Back when I started one of the very first electros I got my hands on was a smart parts, the big heavy bricks. I got it because one of my friends weeks earlier pick one of with a hair trigger.

when i got it home i aired it up, started to look and saw a toggle switch on the front. Guy I bought it from did not mention this. Flip it back, fired and it was toggle between firing modes. From single, semi and full auto.

That thing was awesome in every mode, but the first time I surprised my friends with it they all jumped for cover.

Wish I would have kept it, gave it my brother with a bunch of gear. Who later sold it.

So was that an old impulse or shoebox?
thanks

[pghp8ntballer]

The shockers could be had with the Turbo board (the switch you speak of). Somewhat common option.

I am not knowledgeable about impulses but I think the early ones could be had with a Turbo board but I think they are fairly rare.

You most likely had shocker. Good news is, if you want a shocker or impulse for sentimental reasons, they can still be found somewhat easily and fully functional.

[scottieb]

You had a Shocker 4x4, probably a SF (select fire).

[Siress]

Further rationale to support it being the Shocker Sport S/F:

• The Impulse never had a switch on the front. They were either on the sides or the back (right in front of your face when shooting, but back of the gun...). This is simply because the electronics were in a housing that did not extend to the front, and there wasn't any room for it around the air chambers.

You can learn more about the Shocker here: http://www.zdspb.com/tech/mguide/sho...ectronics.html

[DocsMachine]

You had a Shocker 4x4, probably a SF (select fire).

-This. There were actually three different boards: The 4x4 (plain semi-auto) the Turbo (basically a ramping mode) and the S/F which had non-turbo semi, 3-shot burst, and full-auto.

The interesting thing was, all of them, as I recall, had the solder pads on the front edge to take the S/F switch. Solder the appropriate switch to those pads, and voila`! you had 3-shot/full auto.

I converted many hundreds of such boards to S/F- and while at this late date I can't be positive anymore, but I'm pretty sure no Turbo board came with a select-fire switch. So if you run across one, it's been converted. (I was by no means the only one adding those switches. I'd bet there's easily twice as many S/F shoeboxes out there than SP actually sold. )

A true Turbo can be identified by a low, flat, off-white connector on the driver's side. That, I'm given to understand, was supposed to be a connection to a "turbo loader"- basically a Revvy wired to spin per trigger pull, rather than waiting for the 'eyes' to see a gap. Same as was available on the early Angels, just a different plug. Never saw one myself, though.

Doc.

[XEMON]

How are those connected in the revy?
Might make it to one of my revy (the one with no eyes ...)

[FredMnkyDad10]

Thank you all for the awesome information, you all are truly old school experts.

I might pick one of down the road, but first I have go through my closet of stuff, play and see what i am keeping.

I am sure there are a few projects in there that I wont finish.

[DocsMachine]

How are those connected in the revy?
Might make it to one of my revy (the one with no eyes ...)

-No idea. I never saw the connector, never saw a diagram of how it was to be connected, never saw one already built.

Always kind of wondered what happened there- maybe they were going to sell premodified ones, at their usual 285% markup, and Viewloader refused to sell them any, or maybe just didn't have enough spare inventory to sell a big batch. (Keeping in mind the Revy at the time was far and away the most popular loader.) Or maybe it was just a case where they realized it didn't do any good, and the players didn't like having an extra, external cable, or maybe they had issues 'triggering' the servo in the loader... who knows?

Or, it's possible there were plenty out there being used, and I just never saw any, because basically no one sent the loader in with the gun to be modded.

Doc.

[FredMnkyDad10]

-No idea. I never saw the connector, never saw a diagram of how it was to be connected, never saw one already built.

Always kind of wondered what happened there- maybe they were going to sell premodified ones, at their usual 285% markup, and Viewloader refused to sell them any, or maybe just didn't have enough spare inventory to sell a big batch. (Keeping in mind the Revy at the time was far and away the most popular loader.) Or maybe it was just a case where they realized it didn't do any good, and the players didn't like having an extra, external cable, or maybe they had issues 'triggering' the servo in the loader... who knows?

Or, it's possible there were plenty out there being used, and I just never saw any, because basically no one sent the loader in with the gun to be modded.

Doc.

Doc,
now that you mention that. I think I might have one, of those. Someone did a mod to work with agd warp feed.
I will have to see if still in my closet or I might have let it go.

[lew]

-No idea. I never saw the connector, never saw a diagram of how it was to be connected, never saw one already built...

Doc, I've never seen one of those connectors, either in the field or in any literature.

Never saw much of a need, either, as Revolutions keep up with my Shockers. If they don't, I just get pinched paint, which isn't a problem even considering the mostly crap quality of paint today.

[DocsMachine]

Doc, I've never seen one of those connectors, either in the field or in any literature.

-I'm guessing quite a bit here, as I can't precisely recall the timelines, but it might be that when the Revy-connected Turbo boards came out, that was about the time the first HALOs were hitting the field. At which point any sort of agitator, connected or not, kind of became obsolete.

So it may be that the lead time between developing the connector, and machining the lower trays to have the connector slot, was enough to get them on the market, but too late for players to have much interest.

And, while that's all 100% educated guess, we do know that the new-model single-tube Shockers hit the streets in 2003, and almost instantly obsoleted the shoebox. It may also be that SP saw their own writing on their own wall, and had only gotten partway through that particular development/launch cycle, when they pulled the plug in favor of promoting the inline gun and switching their team players over to HALOs.

Again, pure speculation, take it with a lot of salt.

Doc.

[lew]

-I'm guessing quite a bit here...

Pretty solid for speculation. I think you're pretty close to the mark. Whatever the case, I throw some black electrical tape over the opening and forget about it.😀