Do they work? Do they quiet a paintball marker ?
is it worth it ?
is it worth it ?
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I have found they they work very well on certain markers with certain barrels. The best combination I have found is a closed bolt marker with an unported barrel. If the barrel has porting on it, the difference is not worth the hassle of adding a foot on to the end of your barrel.
Certain markers it seems like they don't work at all, like the noise is not coming out the end of the barrel. I 3d printed one for my friend with a Gog Enmey and it didn't effect the sound at all. Throw it on my Sterling pump with unported barrel and there is almost no noise at all coming out of it.
Edit: I assumed you were asking about "Raincovers" and not Rain Covers. A "Raincover" will not do any thing in terms of helping you shoot in the rain. -
Yes, by I meant raincover as in suppressor.
thanks for info !
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Had one on a unibody Phantom (short, unported barrel) back in the 90s and it made a huge difference. From a pop to a puff. It also made the Phantom crazy long, for a Phantom at least. The bigger downside is that it really buggered one's ability to aim. That was slightly compensated for by the fact that it was easier to get off a follow-up shot before the target could pinpoint your location.
It could also be squeezed onto my 68 Special, though the effect of muffling the muzzle report was mostly just to hear the loud-ass "cha-ching" of the action cycling more distinctly. And of course on a 68 Special the whole setup was ridiculously long.
It was a fun novelty to play around with, but outside of a few specific situations conferred no real advantage, so it rarely went further than showing it off at the chrono range. Not really worth the extra length and screwed up sight picture. And given the attitude of a certain 3-letter federal agency that is apt to consider it a Title II NFA "firearm" because of their views regarding devices they think are readily adaptable to suppressing the report of firearms, it is just not worth the risk to have one now.
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I made a number of them in the 90's out of material from the hardware store. They can work well in covering up the sound of the rain. They can be difficult to securely fit to a barrel. And yes, unported barrels are what you'd want to use.Comment
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There's a noticeable difference when using either an SM RC tip or a Carter whoosh tip on most of my markers.
Be careful transporting it, could get you in trouble.Comment
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If this is the case, then why did BOA incorporate a ported barrel in their Concealer design?Originally posted by shooter311 View Post
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The BOA Concealer is different. There are ports in the barrel but only through the concealer portion. The sound has to exit by way of holes/ports. BOA integrated the barrel and the concealer. The Concealer does a good job at disipating the co2 cloud from a shot. It was marketed to that reason. It does little at quieting the shot.
Having ports in your barrel before adding an additional rain cover on it simply defeats the purpose. Air/sound escapes the barrel before it even reaches the rain cover. -
If you drill a few small holes in the shroud of a BOA Concealer it will quiet the shot considerably, if you put those holes in line with each other you can also use rotate the holes to the top,bottom or either side to redirect the sounding those directions. Works great with Cockers and Spyders,not sure about any others as I never tried it with any other Markers
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I have had lots of fun and from the discussion around after I use it, it appears to be quieter. I have a BOA brass barrel with the cover fixed at the end for my Phantom. As the Phantom is closed bolt, and the barrel has no ports, it fits everything posted above.
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Just use a barrel back or freak back. It's just an extra girthy front end then. We all know length doesn't matter.
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I have a TASO that definitely helps with the sound signature. I use it whenever I'm testing in the garage since my neighbours are prone to complaining/calling the police.
However, I would never pay with one. I cannot aim at all with it.
I could see an application for say a FSR build where you use a sight and don't aim with the barrel.Originally posted by Terry A. DavisComment
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had one on a traccer / deslile modded marker - seemed to work well. used ported barrel. also did one on a rapide - worked well. and a tm7Attached FilesComment
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I really liked my 2nd Gen Whoosh that fit on Dye backs the best. I now have an SM1 that’s been re threaded for cocker. I pack them with felt I sow around the porting. The cover is ported back toward the user. It sounds louder behind the marker but it directs a lot of the sound back. It’s very functional when you get the right material in it to fill the void and absorb some sound while directing it back. Sucks when you break paint because that nice absorbing material absorbs paint nicely to. So you got to keep it clean.
The early larger cans work better but are harder to aim especially for someone who use’s the barrel tip for point shoot reference. The Gen 2 are 1” round they just don’t give you alot of room to work with when packing them.
Also no laws are broken using them they can not be put on firearms and a air rifle/ Paintball marker don’t check the marks for the Overreach Alphabet crew to come knocking.Comment
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Pretty ridiculous to have them call the police, especially if it's in your garage. Basically has the sound signature of a nail gun. Running a shop vac is louder and sustained.Originally posted by RAZRBAKK View Post
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On the legality thing, we're probably safe, in that a plastic thing meant to slip on to an oversized barrel, would be hard to prove that you intended to put it on a firearm.
BUT... that said, as far as the ATF goes, even if you can hand hold it over the muzzle of a firearm, and even if it's destroyed in one shot, if it quiets the shot one decibel, it's considered a suppressor.
WARPIG, years ago, had a letter from somebody that sent in a piece of pipe insulation. The official ATF reply was that as long as it was only used on a paintball gun, it was okay. Slide that same piece over the end of a firearm, and you've broken the law.
Again, we're probably safe, and there are people selling separate, removable airgun suppressors openly. BUT... and this is a big but, the ATF has made no official ruling on the legality of airgun suppressors. They're "legal" in the same way that pot is "legal" in a lot of places- they haven't officially legalized it, they just stopped trying to prosecute anyone about it.
That, in my opinion, is kind of a dangerous grey area. Not gonna say "don't use 'em"- I used to have an integrally-suppressed Webley & Scott PCP pellet rifle- but I also wouldn't wave 'em about too much.
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