Sleeper gun

[zenmic]

The reason I am thinking Tippmann 98 and Spyder clones, are that when I was starting out those were the usual two guns use as rental. Is that not the case now?

I remember when the Angel was one of the most coveted guns out there. I wonder if the Angel girls had anything to do with that. 🤔

[fullofpaint]

Tippmann sleepers are super cool but I think you're looking at a lot more custom work to get really sleeper. OG timmy's weren't far off at all from Spyders so a spimmy conversion is relatively easy but pretty fun too.

I kind of agree with Ions though. It's a bit of a different sleeper take in that, everyone knows Ions shoot fast, but you can really wring impressive performance out of them while looking pretty much stock. I have one that got passed around our whole group of friends. Still has the ugly stock brown grips and body as well as the stock barrel. Only hint it's modded is the trigger and reg. But underneath it's all Lucky internals. Sounds like a chainsaw and it's still set up for NPPL "semi". Pretty much everyone who shoots it justs drops their jaw haha.

[glaman5266]

Tippmanns are still the main rental, at least around me. The local field has a lot of those FT (flip-top) models.If you want to go hard into the rental aesthetic, maybe try one of those? Freak bore the stock barrel, yellow frame panels... Not sure what they look like inside (never torn one apart), so I'm not sure how easy it'd be.

[GreenMan]

The reason I am thinking Tippmann 98 and Spyder clones, are that when I was starting out those were the usual two guns use as rental. Is that not the case now?

spyders are pretty much a thing of the past, and 98 rental fleets are definitely still out there but aging. as well as the FT you will see cronuses (croni?). fancier places have enmeys and emeks, kinda like how some places rented out automags in the past.

[un2xs]

Didn't somebody once do a sleeper ProLite? I seem to remember some kind if RT trigger among the hidden upgrades. Then again, it was probably just a 98.

[Jordan]

Didn't somebody once do a sleeper ProLite? I seem to remember some kind if RT trigger among the hidden upgrades. Then again, it was probably just a 98.

Maybe you're thinking an RT Carbine or ProCarbine? Someone did an RT Carbine at some point.

[Seajay]

The Gamma Core in a 98 sounds awesome.

I'd also suggest a Spimmy but then you are still working with a electric grip frame and trigger. Not so much a sleeper these days since not many would recognize either the spyder or the timmy.

[zenmic]

In my adventures across the Southeast, United States and the West Coast, United States, most of the east coast used Spyder and Sypder clones, at one time PMI Piranha were the rental fleet and the west coast use pretty much Tippmann 98s. I am going back years, so I think it was when PMI became a part of National Paintball Supply, so for field owners they got a great deal on the Piranhas. The Tippmanns could be dragged through the dirt and still work (accuracy may have lost its original meaning). BT-4 became the rental fleets, right?

[glaman5266]

BT-4 became the rental fleets, right?

I've never seen a field with all BT-4s. They'd maybe have a couple for backups, but that's about it. Most of what I see are the Tippmann 98 & FT models.

I also noticed that the fields that I've been to that also offer laser tag almost always use the FT models for their laser tag markers.

Love your avatar BTW. Good show.

[cellophane]

spyders are pretty much a thing of the past, and 98 rental fleets are definitely still out there but aging. as well as the FT you will see cronuses (croni?). fancier places have enmeys and emeks, kinda like how some places rented out automags in the past.

I wouldn't call it a fancy place, but my local field has mostly converted to emeks with a few Tippmans leftover. Oddly they also have a brand new Spyder for sale in the shop 😲

[zenmic]

Wow, it has been years since I have been back to the Tippmann website. It has REALLY changed. The FT sounds interesting. I figured that the Flip Top makes it a whole lot easier for maintenance and cleaning (the images reminds me of the old days of taking apart and cleaning Brass Eagle Stingrays). I remembered that back in the day, you could easily download manuals for any gun from Tippmann from their site. I guess not anymore.

Maybe I should make two sleepers...one for the "Old newbie" and one for the "New newbie." The old newbie would have an old beat up 98 and the new newbie would have a beat up FT.

In the old days the Rental fleet would have it etched, scratched, engraved on the gun bodies RENTAL and the usual color for the furniture was yellow. Is that still the case now? Have Enmeys and Emeks gotten so cheap that they are "disposable/commodities" guns that they can be used as rental fleets?

[BenoitOWN]

The flip top is actually a weak point over time.

[un2xs]

Hmmm.... Could there be much lower than a JT Tac5? What could you do to sleeperize that one?

[Magmoormaster]

I've never seen a field with all BT-4s. They'd maybe have a couple for backups, but that's about it. Most of what I see are the Tippmann 98 & FT models.

I've seen one or two that have BT4s exclusively. Certainly not common though.

[zenmic]

Hmmm.... Could there be much lower than a JT Tac5? What could you do to sleeperize that one?

Wasn't there something even lower than that from JT at one time. They had some 3-stacked tube thingie that was more than a kissing cousin to Kingmann products and some pistol variant too that was even cheaper than the Tac5...I want to say in the same family. The upgraded parts would cost several times more than the marker itself.

[SignOfZeta]

A JT ERS with Palmer internals and a three way in the grip?