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  • Brandon
    Hiding behind bunkers
    • Aug 2020
    • 535
    • Altamont, NY

    #1

    Cocker pump return springs

    What are you guys using for springs and where are you putting them ? In the pump handle or around the guide ? I can’t find a proper size spring or if I do it’s far to strong and makes it a chore to pump.
  • iamthelazerviking
    Make Paintballs 690 Again
    • Jul 2020
    • 2711
    • Staunton, VA

    #2
    What pump kit are you using? I only use a spring inside the handle (CCM kits).
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    • Ecapnation
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 4214
      • South Central Long Island

      #3
      Inside on ccm's

      I've used really weak and worn out Spyder main springs cut down as needed

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      • Brandon
        Brandon commented
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        Oh there’s an idea I think I’ve got some of those somewhere! Thanks for the input.
    • Brandon
      Hiding behind bunkers
      • Aug 2020
      • 535
      • Altamont, NY

      #4
      Ccm, the spring that came with it is so light that each shot sends the bolt back and inch.

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      • Chuck E Ducky
        Ragnastock Enforcer
        • Jul 2020
        • 6116
        • NY

        #5
        That’s how they are, if you hold the handle it solves this problem. There’s also a guy selling longer ones on eBay (Time2Paintball) I got one to try but haven’t installed it. I kind of like that my marker will drop 30fps if I don’t hold the handle. But wanted to try one anyway just haven’t got around to installing it. It’s was like $12 with shipping.

        https://www.ebay.com/itm/272622753570

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        • ketzer7
          ketzer7 commented
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          I'm using a bunch of the T2PB pump springs on my CCM pump kit equipped guns. I like the feel of it better than the stock CCM spring. On my S6 it's friggin magical.

          One caveat - using them in an oDm mini pump handle makes them a little too stiff IMO because his handles have about a 0.5" shallower pump guide channel than stock CCM pump handles.
      • iamthelazerviking
        Make Paintballs 690 Again
        • Jul 2020
        • 2711
        • Staunton, VA

        #6
        Never noticed an issue with CCM pump kits) return springs, but my hand is always on the pump handle (plus sweet spotting everything helps). Those T2PB springs seem interesting.
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        • iamthelazerviking
          Make Paintballs 690 Again
          • Jul 2020
          • 2711
          • Staunton, VA

          #7
          Now that I have an S6.5 on the way I also went for one of these T2PB springs to try, I'll return with my thoughts later on
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          • Brandon
            Brandon commented
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            I bought one also.
        • Ratzo
          Full Time Procrastinator
          • Jul 2020
          • 215
          • Canada

          #8
          Am I the only one who revoves return springs.
          Took them off my Sterling, Phantom, and never installed then on my Sniper builds.

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          • BrickHaus
            BrickHaus commented
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            On a cocker I prefer them. Not that I need them for shooting. But I like to make hard runs. In which case my marker is held one handed and to my side. No return spring invites the backblock to fall open. Plus the stroke is so effortless, I like the positive feedback of a spring.

          • Jonnydread
            Jonnydread commented
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            I like a wicked hard return spring. I have a double spring in my main cocker pump. I play hard and use my gear hard so the stiffer return spring makes me less likely to double feed or fuck something up when I'm running around.
        • BrickHaus
          Tactical Spoon Reacquired
          • Sep 2020
          • 3396
          • Minnesota

          #9
          Im still old school. I have an rc car shock on the main rod of my old ccm kit. I like the look of the spring.
          https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...khaus-feedback

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          • Jonnydread
            Jonnydread commented
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            I had a build with the springs on the outside. A lot of people commented on the look, but it felt way better.

          • Psycho91
            Psycho91 commented
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            No Stanger to the outside spring on the guide rod, feels better imo, I've just never heard of using an rc car shock spring

          • Dirklax39
            Dirklax39 commented
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            This perfect! Exactly what I am looking for. Can you find the specs of the RC car spring for the CCM kit for me?
        • BrickHaus
          Tactical Spoon Reacquired
          • Sep 2020
          • 3396
          • Minnesota

          #10
          https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...khaus-feedback

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          • Psycho91
            Psycho91 commented
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            Good way to add a little accent color

          • Dirklax39
            Dirklax39 commented
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            Perfect! What spring is this? BrickHaus

          • BrickHaus
            BrickHaus commented
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            Dirklax39 I honestly dont recall. It was a shock spring from an old rc car. I sold the kit long ago, so ai cant measure it for ya.
        • glaman5266
          MCB Life Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1277
          • WI

          #11
          Have you tried going to a hardware store? Might not have the proper length, but you can always cut them down. I made my own Pro Carbine trigger spring that way- took over half the weight out of the pull, lol.
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          • Chuck E Ducky
            Chuck E Ducky commented
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            You can definitely find the T2PB spring at any good hardware store cheaper. I ordered one strictly for convenience. Lee spring can definitely Make them to whatever length and strength you want but would probably cost more the T2PB.

          • glaman5266
            glaman5266 commented
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            Yup. If I need anything for my paintguns I go to the hardware store first. I previously went there for odds & ends, but I actually work there now. Now I know all of what they/we carry and I'm always looking for stuff to add to or tweak in my paintguns. It's kind of a trap, lol.

          • Psycho91
            Psycho91 commented
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            I can't walk into any hardware store and not look for things to use in paintball, I'm building an expensive cocker but I'm a cheap ass at heart, hell I've even looked up oring sizes and just went to the hardware store for them, copper and pvc work great for barrel extensions and SC feeds
        • SignOfZeta
          Space Commie
          • Jul 2020
          • 576
          • Ann Arbor

          #12
          Originally posted by Brandon
          Ccm, the spring that came with it is so light that each shot sends the bolt back and inch.
          Does a paintball gun bolt even have an inch of travel?

          What you’re describing is normal operation. There is no fix for you not having both hands on both handles. Perfecting your technique costs nothing so I always recommend practice before buying parts in any hobby.

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