Mokal Titan Questions

[Drunkscriblerian]

So I have an old Mokal Titan that thanks to a bit of fiddling airs up and shoots just fine. I have a few questions about it though.

-Does anyone happen to know what the body and grip frame are made from? It feels too dense to be aluminum.

-People on Reddit are saying that the Titan's barrel is Cocker threaded. Can anyone confirm this? I can post a pic of the barrel thread if that will help.

-Can anyone tell me anything more about it in general? All I know is it was released some time in the 90s, was made in Toronto and apparently never really caught on in the States considering I've never encountered any in the wild.

Really not sure why these weren't a bigger hit; they're stupid easy to take apart, shoot quite straight and handle nicely.

[shooter311]

I have a Mokal Mirage which is basically a Titan without vert feed, since it was purchased new in the 90s, and it is hands down the most reliable marker I own. I have rebuilt it literally once about five years ago, and it still airs up and shoots without any problems. I too am really blown away that they were not more popular. I think they just competed with Tippman markers, and Tippmann's were just way too popular to overthrow.

[Drunkscriblerian]

I remember Mirages! The field I started on used them as rentals. Great guns, a bit clunky but no more so than a Tippmann.

[Morgenstern]

I’ve worked on a couple of these and they were pretty neat! Their most direct competitor was probably the Sheridan JTX/XTS and those suck to work on, especially when compared to a Titan. I think the Titan bodies were sand cast aluminum which depending on the alloy could be a bit denser than the 6061 most paintball stuff is machined from.

As stated above the Tippmanns were probably just too popular for other inline blowbacks to have much market share and compared to a 98 the Titan looks pretty dorky but is every bit as functional, and with a user serviceable valve too and built in vertical asa too! I had a Tippmann 98 early on and honestly the powerfeed on the Titan would have made it a no-go for me at the time. The iron sights with a clear view and Tommy gun foregrip were great selling points for the 98 when it came to woodsball

[Drunkscriblerian]

Yeah the Titan comes apart stupid easy. Mine was a find in a staging area long ago; I couldn't find anyone who wanted to claim it so into my collection it went. I didn't have the manual but thanks to my experience running and servicing a Pro-Lite I was able to figure it out.

The look of it is indeed drab and dorky, nothing really to catch the eye of a prospective buyer. Especially not with flashier (Spyder all its clones) and more well-known (Tippmann) models sitting next to it. A shame, really.

[Chappy]

Maybe I’m crazy but I seem to remember a story about Sheridan contracting the guy from moral to help design the xts. They were looking for a semi to slap their name in that was a few pounds less than the vm. They approached montneel but the lack of patents turned them off. Then they approached Mokal and they created the xts. I can’t back any of this up and I certainly don’t trust my cobwebbed brain but man this all sounds familiar lol.

[loveaboveall]

I do not know this brand at all but Bacci does know more than me!

https://baccipaintball.com/t1542.html

According this this article:

"Stock barrel is similar to cocker threads but the threaded shaft is shorter so the threads on a cocker barrel wouldn't screw in all the way and although the breech would be close, some of the cocker threads would show."

[Drunkscriblerian]

I'm looking at pictures of Cocker threaded barrels and it seems like the reverse of what the article says is true; that the Cocker barrels have a shorter thread section than the factory Titan barrel. Really wish I had an actual Cocker barrel to try in this thing before I buy one.

[capitalpaintball]

It is Cocker threaded but not all cocker barrels will work. The bolt travels into the barrel when fired, so if the bore is to small it will catch and not recock. barrels like Armson usually work because they have a bevel at the breach. There will be a gap between the body and the base of the barrel, but its only visual. I have modded some others to work.
Smart parts did make a Titan specific barrel (All American and a Progressive)

[Drunkscriblerian]

Thanks for the information, that's what I thought but I wanted to be sure. I'm currently eyeing a Cocker threaded Lapco barrel bored at .690, I think that'll work with a Titan.