Pro team product Pro-dot, Izon, Armson OEG

[Alexndl]

Found this with an 68 automag


Anyone still use those?
first time I will try one

Any difference between the PTP Pro dot, Dye Izon or Armson OEG

PTP seem to still sell a similar one but mine seem like an early version

https://www.proteamdirect.com/prodsigsys.html

[Toestr]

Armson USA and PTP are the same company, so I assume the PTP sight is just rebranded Armson.

From what I have heard, the dye izon sight has the weakest dot of all these style sights, even being beaten by its own the 32 degrees version.

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[Spider!]

even being beaten by its own the 32 degrees version.

That is indeed sad; the 32 deg version was really weak.

I use a couple of the Armson sights on pistols. The value is higher when you are unfamiliar with the way the marker points. Also handy when you are trying to drop a ball into a long shot spot repeatedly while shifting your focus back and forth to different targets.

[Toestr]

That is indeed sad; the 32 deg version was really weak.

I use a couple of the Armson sights on pistols. The value is higher when you are unfamiliar with the way the marker points. Also handy when you are trying to drop a ball into a long shot spot repeatedly while shifting your focus back and forth to different targets.

This is based purely on second hand testimony. I own a proper dye one, and it is usable, but certainly nothing to write home about. I assume the 32 degrees ones were made in the same factory.

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[lew]

That is indeed sad; the 32 deg version was really weak.

The DYE ones were useless. Even [with a fresh battery and]* looking into a darker area, the dot was barely visible.

[Toestr]

The DYE ones were useless. Even with a fresh battery and looking into a darker area, the dot was barely visible.

Battery?

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[lew]

Battery?

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Hah! I've been looking at red dot sights all morning. Batteries on the brain, assault and battery on the schedule... Good catch. Either way, the dot was terribly weak.

[nerdcore]

One of our guys uses one, when he uses a vertical feed. Dunno what brand but he swears by it. Which I can attest because I've definitely been shot by him, lol.

[Foldadoom]

Armson is the mil version used alot in SA in LE and their standing army. I used an armson for years and lived them...I regret selling them. I personally found the 32 degrees version (or at least the one I own) has nice crisp dot ..even the dye version is no too bad ..dot is most likely not as crisp as its shrouded

[The Inflicted]

I have two Armsons, a 32 Degrees Magnum, and have had one of the original DYE sights. Of these, the Armson versions are the best, with the 32 Degrees one a close second- its main drawback is that the mounting screws are finnicky and require a very tall, narrow rail to be able to bite in. The DYE version is extremely poor, with a very dim and fuzzy reticle. I was able to greatly improve the one I had by rebuilding it with a custom aperture I made from aluminum foil, but reassembling it was one of the most frustrating things I've ever done.