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    Torpedo reg strangeness

    I picked up a Bob Long Defiant 2 a while back and it's never shot quite right. It has the stock lpr, a CP vasa, and some flavor of torpedo hpr. As best I could tell there was some sort of recharge issue occuring causing the gun to cycle very slowly. The forward stroke of the bolt was fine but the return stroke was noticably slower and caused shoot down over 5bps. Occasionally I could hear a faint squeaking sound from the hpr after a shot, as if the reg piston was moving very slowly.

    I rebuilt both regs twice with standard 70d buna orings and no dice. Replaced them all with 70d quad rings and it got a little better but would still act like it was starving for air half the time. I swapped the torp with the evil detonator I have on my Promaster and, wouldn't you know it, both guns now shoot fine.

    My question is why would the torpedo barely work on the Defiant but work fine on the Promaster? Am I going crazy or shouldn't the sprung ram of the promaster have made the recharge issue more apparant? Anyone else have a similar experience?

    #2
    Might have to do with the volume above the piston/ in the gun itself.

    I had a torpedo that would act funny like that. I figured there was probably a slow leak around the piston so I drilled a vent next to the adjustment screw. Shot way better afterwards.
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    • RhoXi

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      I was thinking of doing this exact same thing. Definitely going to try it now.

    • Frmrspec

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      lol I thought this was a pic of one of my regs.. I did that to all my torpedo's

    • flyweightnate

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      Once you know, it's hard to unknow!
      I had a similar issue on a crazy build in college, so now I just assume every piston leaks over time.

    #3
    Did some more testing last night this is exactly what's happening. The recharge rate starts dropping then the reg starts to over pressurize. It almost blew out my mini gauge! Air is definitely getting around the piston and pressurizing the lower chamber. How big a hole should I drill? Luckily I've got access to a drill press so it shouldn't be too difficult.

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      Originally posted by RhoXi View Post
      Did some more testing last night this is exactly what's happening. The recharge rate starts dropping then the reg starts to over pressurize. It almost blew out my mini gauge! Air is definitely getting around the piston and pressurizing the lower chamber. How big a hole should I drill? Luckily I've got access to a drill press so it shouldn't be too difficult.
      Tiny is fine - 1/16" will be way bigger than the leak.

      See if you can flex-hone the piston bore if it looks scratched, and check for nicks on the gland (oring groove) on the piston itself.
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      • RhoXi

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        Will do, thanks!

      #5
      This is the bore of my torpedo... I guess I know why it needs a vent
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      • RhoXi

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        Yep that's about how mine looks. It's a shame because the outside is a lot better shape.
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