Back from retirement looking for pump gun suggestions :)

[Pyrate Jim]

Phantoms don't wear out, they wear in.
It may feel stiff at first because the tolerances are tight, with enough use those "pinch points" wear down and it becomes butter smooth.

[packersrule729]

Yup, what they said. Stick with a sniper. It’s modular, modern, and you can make it your own.

Nice profile pic, btw. Love Nathan Fielder

[pastajacob]

Comparatively pump paintball is much cheaper to get into then other paintball styles of play.

foreal, right before i stopped playing i had bought one of the first azodin pumps that were released, while i didn’t really like the azodin, pump was so much fun and shooting 1/4th box of paint the entire day saved so much money, which was nice at the time because i was broke, well i still am, just less broke i suppose haha

[un2xs]

Hasn't even been here a month and he caught has already caught MCD - Mass Cash Drain

[Chuck E Ducky]

Comparatively pump paintball is much cheaper to get into then other paintball styles of play.

[pastajacob]

Thanks so much guys, the amount of advice is great. I have decided that I will most likely buy a sniper first to get out and play, then pick up a phantom as a second gun. Might as well not rely on one to do both, just have both lol. I can see how this will get expensive very quickly lol.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Yup that would be my choice 100% especially if I’m limiting myself to one marker. It’s got freak bore barrel VSC setup. You could then purchase a small 9ci for less than $70 from tippman. Add an open class adapter to the stock class body they are like $35. Or get a bottom line kit and run a larger bottle out the back. It’s gloss black so all kinds of parts will match. They also hold their value so later down the road if you want to switch it up you could get $400 for that easy. I’m surprised it’s still available honestly.

Other option I would go is to build a pump from an old cocker. I would use CCM lowers and CCM pump kit on whatever body fits my fancy. This is a great option if you just plan on playing open class pump. Sub 600 you can build a pretty wild pump. It’s super simple we could walk you threw it if you don’t know how.

[Cdn_Cuda]

I'm a big cocker fan, not a fan of Phantoms. Empire Snipers are good and you can also look at more custom built snipers built with various cocker bodies. You can get a fairly nice one in your price range and give you a more customizable experience. Even building a your own sniper is fun. Find a body you like, then lots of options on the various pump kits, internals, and trigger frames.

[Jonnydread]

Open class pump. Get a either a Airow Percision Sterling or a Indian Creek Designs PRP. Both are unique enough to stand out at the field while also being great performers. Auto trigger standard so you can keep up with everyone else on the field. I love my sterling. Most people do. .

I agree with you on the unique part, but for a first pump I wouldn't recommend a PRP, and probably not a Sterling. The PRP can be finicky and they are hard to come by, while some of the newer Sterlings have some out of the box issues that can be frustrating, especially if you're just dipping your toes in.

I recommend building a WGP-based cocker pump. Parts are widely available, they're simple to work on, and they translate well from semi to pump. Empire guns feel chintzy to me. Phantoms are great and simple to use, but they can have a steeper learning curve.

[superman]

While i agree the phantom is great. I tend to lean more towards open class play. I would pick up a empire sniper and plan on replacing the reg seat and seals in the reg. plan on swapping the hammer out with inception designs.

I would also consider a something more along the lines of the cocker platform so you can mix and match parts that you may want to swap. I have a few options in that price range in the pump section.

[Trbo323]

https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...-other-goodies

do u guys think this is a good deal? from the pump section on here

If you are looking for open class no. You would have to change too much around to get it to be open class to be worth it.

If you want to play stock class yes. It's a good price

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[Axel]

I absolutely love Phantoms and old brass Sheridan guns, but it depends very much on what you want to do with it.

If you want to play speedball tournaments and attempt to keep up with electro guns, you probably want an Autococker / Sniper based gun with auto trigger and the air and paint systems to keep it fed.

If you want to find stock class games, then ball for ball, your Phantoms and probably PRPs (I just haven't shot one personally) are excellent guns. I won't call the pump stroke on a single-tube Nelson-valve gun "stiff"--let's say it's "crisp"--but you won't get the speed or accuracy at high volume like on a finely tuned CCM or Inception Designs 'cocker/sniper where the pump stroke is almost like a second, long trigger pull.

If you just want to play walk-on or big games, it's entirely up to what strikes your fancy and how much of a challenge you want. As stated, Autococker/Sniper guns will get you closest to keeping up with electronic semis in rate of fire. But if you want a challenge and aren't worried about 'shutting down lanes', I've had surprising luck snap shooting with a light Phantom setup, getting your gun up and that first ball on target a fraction of a second quicker than an opponent with a 200-ball loader and a tank, plus you can move around the field quicker without half a case of paint around your waist.

Sterlings are just cool, and the Azodin KP3 is a surprisingly well put together Spyder-type pump (think of it like a really well done budget Cocker/Sniper). Then there are more obscure guns, and the lunatics here who turn semi guns into pumps because of reasons 😉

Pump paintball isn't a game or a sport. It's a disease, and it's contagious 😁

[shooter311]

The phantom is a solid marker, but it is just not for me. I just don't like how stiff and crunchy the pump stoke is. However, most everyone loves them. I would see if you could get one in your hands first.

Personally, I think the Sterling is hands down the best all around pump. It has the smoothness of a ccm, the compact size and efficiently of a phantom. Plus it's super easy to switch
from stock class and open and everything in between. Plus it's cheaper than a phantom.

Down side is there is only one place to buy them, and they are in Australia. https://paintballshop.com/sterling/

Keep in mind the exchange rate. You could get a stock class stp within your budget and that will come with everything for all the different kinds of pump play. Only upgrade I would recommend is a freak barrel for it ( Spyder thread).

Ultimately, the best decision would be made after going to a field and testing out a couple different pumps to see what feel you like the best.

[BrickHaus]

Im not a phantom guy, but this looks like a solid deal to me at 400. That is essentially how Id want my phantom set up if I bought one.

[pastajacob]

https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/buy-sell-trade/pump-guns/368882-phantom-with-vertical-asa-freak-kit-other-goodies

do u guys think this is a good deal? from the pump section on here