Rt valve and ult

[Brianeric26]

Who still mods rt valves to accept the ult on off ? And is it worth it ?

[superman]

I am personally not a fan of the ult. Some guys love them. I find they are less reliable than the rt on/off. Not to mention the risk for drilling one is pretty high.

[Hellion360]

I like them with the stock single trigger carbon frame. But they are definitely less reliable.

[Brianeric26]

I have never shot an rt , only a classic with an rt on off , probably should have waited my new valve to arrive to see if i like it before wanting to modify it haha ,? Is the trigger pull about the same as a classic with an rt on off? I mean of course it will be bouncy but yeah haha

[superman]

Yes it will be similar but you will notice that it is a bit more responsive as it pushes your finger back forwards.

[rawbutter]

Who still mods rt valves to accept the ult on off ? And is it worth it ?

I imagine that by the time you pay for shipping and machinist fees, modding an RT valve for a ULT probably won't be cost effective. You would likely be better off selling the RT valve and using that money to pay for an x-valve. the only cost-effective way to mod an RT valve is if you have all the tooling to do the job yourself (which, as Jake said, is very risky and shouldn't be done unless you're willing to possibly scrap the valve).

Personally I do like ULTs. That's what I used before I switched to a pneumag. But I don't shoot a lot (usually less than 200 rounds per game). If you want a high ROF, an RT on/off will probably be better in the long run.

[Brianeric26]

Probably wont do it then , have been looking for a cheap rt valve for like 2 years and finally was able to find one , saving up 300 plus the ult for an x valve is out of my reach

[Criticalhammer]

Bump

Would it be possible to mod classic valves for ULT packs? The upside to ULT is its a softer trigger pull, but at the expense of reactivity.

[superman]

Ult will fit in a classic valve but generally it’s a negative experience for most people. Better solution is an rt on/off.

[rawbutter]

Ult will fit in a classic valve but generally it’s a negative experience for most people. Better solution is an rt on/off.

When I tried it, the trigger got really mushy and wouldn't reset sometimes. It's not just the on/off assembly that determines reactivity. The valve design affects it too. And the classic valve doesn't have the right design for it. Not sure if it's the regulator or something else. But yeah... A ULT in a classic valve just doesn't feel right, and it's not usually reliable.

[Spider!]

Ult will fit in a classic valve but generally it’s a negative experience for most people. Better solution is an rt on/off.

Agreed.

I have two classics with ult's; they are both assisted-return. One has a tiny spring inside that holds it open. It's a pain to remove the valve from the rail.

The other has a magnet base that clings to the sear. The sear has a weak spring for extra return force.

Once you add the return assist, you start getting back toward RT on/off forces.