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    Hummmmm What is Docfire up to now....

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    #2
    a 9/16ths lazarus/morph style valve? that would be pretty neat lol

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    • Jordan

      Jordan

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      Isn't that basically a Madmann Rocket valve?

    • latches109

      latches109

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      Jordan madman is unbalanced, it’s “optimized” for air flow with its funny cone. I have two and they are silly valves.

    • desertT1
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      But how are they? I have one that I recently found. Don’t even remember getting it, but it would have been quite a while ago. Tempted to put it in something, but also not sure it’s worth the effort.

    #3
    looks like turbo mod
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      #4
      Cringe logo.

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        #5
        Originally posted by Toestr View Post
        Cringe logo.
        Yep

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          #6
          Originally posted by Toestr View Post
          Cringe logo.
          Well he is down and dirty, after all.
          Got Bork?

          Olsson's WTB - Shut up and take my money!

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            #7
            cool. what is the stem length? what is the min pressure the cup will seal with brass/ss?

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              #8
              My guess is a rebuildable valve stem for WGP valves using a 010 or 011 oring

              Edit: Darn, was really hoping this was gonna be something rebuildable with non propriety parts. I hope it works under the same principle as AKA's valve, using the tapered section as a sail to close the valve, and it's not just another turbo valve

              Post by Doc on FB:

              This turbo mod paired with a DFI regulator (coming soon) will make your "Sticker Peck out" BUt lest keep this under the wraps...... as its a super super duper on the down low, if you know what Im saying tonight in chat gone wild.

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                #9
                Originally posted by minimag03 View Post
                My guess is a rebuildable valve stem for WGP valves using a 010 or 011 oring

                Edit: Darn, was really hoping this was gonna be something rebuildable with non propriety parts. I hope it works under the same principle as AKA's valve, using the tapered section as a sail to close the valve, and it's not just another turbo valve

                Post by Doc on FB:
                Sure.

                BTW the sail on the AKA is not the tapered section..... its the wings on the seat.

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                • minimag03

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                  Are you sure about that? How did this guy get his valve mod to work without the wings on the seat?


                • docfire
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                  No, As for Chis valve he used surface area (force = area squared * PSI) the total surface area of the valve face plus the valve stem (where it fattens) is greater than a stock valve.

                • minimag03

                  minimag03

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                  Exactly my point! ALL standard cocker valves are shut due to the pressure exerted on their seat, some more than others because the seat design provides more surface. Fewer valves have a second sail on their tapered stem like Chris's, Inception, RAT, and I assumed AKA's as well.

                  How is AKA's tapered valve stem not effected by the force of air running through the valve when the other valves of a similar design do? I was even under the impression that small channel on the AKA's valve (where you would find an oring on a RAT or Inception) acts as a third sail, catching the air escaping between the valve and the guide.

                  To be clear, I'm genuinely interested in how the valves work and understand you have lots of experience. But I'm confused as to how the tapered stem works as a sail in other valves but not AKAs.
                  Last edited by minimag03; 01-08-2024, 06:16 PM.

                #10
                Docfire is one of those guys that if he recommends a product I don't second guess it. I have only talked to him a couple times over the phone, but it was pretty evident he is a straight shooter. Since he is hyping this stem with his name on it, I'll be buying a couple for some future builds.

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                • Chuck E Ducky

                  Chuck E Ducky

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                  Agreed compared to all the snake oil that gets sold on the internet DocFire is definitely legit. I been following him a while on his YouTube videos.

                #11
                So what exactly dose this valve do and why do I need it?

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                • Cdn_Cuda

                  Cdn_Cuda

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                  My guess it is the DFI reg stand for Dic Fire I-something? reg. So just need to figure out what the I stands for. Inline? Ignition?

                • docfire
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                  Yes, dic fire it is, the valve pin is a replacement for all the failing wgp valve pins. And yes a "dic fire" reg is in protyping. And yes certain regs can lowere operating psi. I have done the testing and videos to show how.

                • Cdn_Cuda

                  Cdn_Cuda

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                  As someone who has an Empire Sniper valve pin blow up (the white plastic guide part) after a reg failure this is all good news.

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                Just picked up the valve seat material Click image for larger version

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                  #13
                  Originally posted by docfire View Post
                  Just picked up the valve seat material Click image for larger version

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                  Oh, thank goodness, I was worried you'd cheap out on materials.

                  Name brand for the win!
                  And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

                  “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

                  And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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                  • docfire
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                    ya didn't need anyone corn-planeing

                  #14
                  DocFire! Do you have a projected release date? Love your videos.

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                  • minimag03

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                    Asked him the other day on FB and didn’t get a reply. It was a old post tho. I also believe he mentioned that he was pricing materials around the time he posted this thread. I hope that process worked out and we’ll see some of these soon

                  • docfire
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                    They have messed my quote up several times. Errr.....

                  • minimag03

                    minimag03

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                    docfire Just noticed your reply, thanks for letting us know! Im happy just to hear the the product is still progressing. It gives me the confidence to use certain valve guides my autocockers.
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