Reg output on G6r
So I've read that you need an SLP reg for these, but I've also read that you shouldn't output more than 500PSI. Assuming my Powerhouse outputs at 450, I should good, yeah? Or do I really need to buy an SLP reg?
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At 450 psi you'll be good. Build a tester with a gauge and an asa to verify its in the required range. Im pretty sure all powerhouse regs are adjustable so no need to purchase anything. -
Perfect! Thank you! Just the answer I'm looking for!Originally posted by jetenginekyle View PostComment
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I've ran 550psi output before with no issues but mostly use 450psi. A SLP reg just allows you to shoot about another hopper out of your tank.Comment
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The amount of energy stored in a tank is finite, and the output pressure of the regulator cannot change that. If you set your tank regulator output to 1,000 PSI, vs the same tank set to 500 PSI, the amount of air (and therefor energy) in the tank is still the same. All that will happen is that once the 1,000 PSI regulator tank pressure drops below 1,000 PSI, the regulator will just stay open, supplying the marker with whatever pressure the tank is at. This tank would actually flow air better if anything, as the regulator is no longer opening and closing. However, air flow really doesn't matter, as long as it's enough to supply the marker, which in both cases it is. Further still, air flow can't change the amount air of air in the tank.
While we could get into the discussion of how the typical regulators used in paintball do have a slight variation in output pressure in relation to input pressure, this is minor enough to not really matter. In this case there are two regulators (three in regards to the "low pressure" side fed to the solenoid/ram), which further diminishes this. The primary reason the G6R, and many other markers, prefer/require low pressure tanks is due to their hoseless design, and the route tank air has to travel before it gets to the markers first (sometimes only) regulator. In the case of the G6R, there are a lot of places (ASA to frame, frame to back body half, back body half to front body half, and finally front body half to "high pressure" regulator) for air to leak (the VCOM also has a lot of the same places, only one less since the body is one piece). -
I understand that the overall amount of shots in a tank cannot be changed with reg output pressure differences but in regards to a SLP reg you will get more consistent shots through the marker at the correct velocity deeper into the tank than you would with a higher output pressure reg. That's where the "more shots" come from. The drop of point of anything under 280 fps would happen quicker with a 450/550psi output reg than it would at 300psi on SLP reg. -
Yes, as I mentioned, the simple regulator designs used in paintball are unable to compensate for the variation of input pressure, and its affect on output pressure. This applies to all regulators in a given setup, including the tank regulator. A tank reg set to 300/450/500/550/800/1,000/etc PSI at 4,500 PSI tank pressure will not be the same when the tank pressure is 1,000 PSI. As the tank pressure decreases, so will the tank regulator output pressure. The corresponding change in velocity would be more noticeable in a marker that used no further regulation, like say a Tippmann 98, but even then it won't be significant enough to become unplayable. A marker using an additional regulator lessen this significantly. That additional regulator will too be susceptible to variations in output pressure in relation to changes in input pressure. So yes, all else being the same, a setup using a tank with a regulator output set to 1,000 PSI, vs the regulator set to 300 PSI, will start to see a slight acceleration in the rate of which velocity is dropping as the tank is depleted once tank pressure drops below 1,000 PSI. That said this will not be significant, as velocity will remain playable, and the change will be in the single digit percentage velocity drop at worst. It's important to note that velocity drops very slightly, theoretically, every shot, as the tank is depleted from the first shot on a fresh fill, till the tank is empty enough to need refilled. In real life this is masked by numerous other variables that affect velocity far more significantly.
Now, I'm not saying to not run at a lower output pressure on your tank. It hurts nothing (though it can limit what markers you can use your tank on), but it doesn't really gain you anything either (the argument could be made that the higher output will be more stressful on the next regulator in the setup, and slightly accelerate its wear, but again, this really won't be significant). This myth isn't really that bad compared to some of the other ones in paintball, like poppet valved marker dropshots, closed-bolt accuracy, and so on.
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