Phantom Anti Double Pump?

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  • Toestr
    Certified Post Whore
    • Jul 2020
    • 2871
    • Poland, Onterrible

    #1

    Phantom Anti Double Pump?

    Do Phantoms have this feature and if not can they be retrofitted to have it?

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  • Chuck E Ducky
    Ragnastock Enforcer
    • Jul 2020
    • 6114
    • NY

    #2
    No the bolt dose not lock closed like an SL68 if that is what you are asking. You can get the ASP detents this will eliminate Rollouts and double feeds but if you pump it twice it will load two paintballs just like most pumps with very few exceptions.

    If you are just getting into pump play you will eventually stop double pumping it with practice. It will become mussel memory. When In doubt pull the trigger to clear the breach and reset your timing.

    The Phantom is one of the best performing Stock Class markers. It’s very reliable and efficient. They make very good open class pumps and with its modular design it can be made into a bunch of different pump play styles that fit your needs with even more options when you look at the aftermarket support for them. It’s the one marker that dose it all.

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    • SignOfZeta
      Space Commie
      • Jul 2020
      • 576
      • Ann Arbor

      #3
      Almost no gun does this and once you have a day’s experience you won’t need it.

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      • Toestr
        Certified Post Whore
        • Jul 2020
        • 2871
        • Poland, Onterrible

        #4
        Hmm alright, I thought it was a more common feature. Two of the three different Nelsons I've owned have had it.

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        • Chuck E Ducky
          Ragnastock Enforcer
          • Jul 2020
          • 6114
          • NY

          #5
          What other pump locks forward? I thought that was a unique feature on the SL68’s.

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          • Toestr
            Certified Post Whore
            • Jul 2020
            • 2871
            • Poland, Onterrible

            #6
            Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky
            What other pump locks forward? I thought that was a unique feature on the SL68’s.
            My Hammer 7 also locked forward. Apparently the USI Raider also.

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            • flyweightnate
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 1850
              • Dallas, TX

              #7
              So... how can the feature be added? I agree that it's not necessary after you get used to it (can feel whether it's loaded via trigger pressure or a quick press-check on the pump) but it would be cool to know how, if someone wanted to.

              A latch in the frame, linked to the trigger?
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              • Shaftski
                Certified Post Whore
                • Mar 2021
                • 686
                • Taxachusetts

                #8
                maverick locks forward also. assume trracer and hornet do as since they are all same design.

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                • BLachance75
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 1114
                  • Western MA

                  #9
                  If you can’t double pump it how are you supposed to double ball an electro when you bunker them
                  Red One

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                  • RAZRBAKK
                    Unburdened by genius.
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 1356
                    • Calgary, Alberta

                    #10
                    Empire trracer also locks forward.
                    Originally posted by Terry A. Davis
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                    • SignOfZeta
                      Space Commie
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 576
                      • Ann Arbor

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shaftski
                      maverick locks forward also. assume trracer and hornet do as since they are all same design.
                      The PMI Trracer does not lock, it’s exactly like a Phantom.

                      The only gun I’ve ever owned with this feature is the JT ERS.

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                      • capitalpaintball
                        Bunker Buster
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 298
                        • Coventry, Rhode Island

                        #12
                        Radar Mark 2000 lock. it was a nice feature. but it cant be added to the Phantom

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                        • chrislognshot
                          Certified Post Whore
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 1524
                          • CFL area Melbourne

                          #13
                          well CCM use to have set for ball dent to stop double loading paintballs but that was hooper feed thing.

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                          • SignOfZeta
                            Space Commie
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 576
                            • Ann Arbor

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chrislognshot
                            well CCM use to have set for ball dent to stop double loading paintballs but that was hooper feed thing.
                            Snipers and [later] Sterlings have them and anti-double-feed is now standard on Phantoms.

                            I have never had a use for this feature ever…just don’t hold the breach open like a ding dong…very easy. It makes more sense as a feature on a Cocker, honestly.

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                            • Cunha
                              Certified Post Whore
                              • Jul 2020
                              • 2027

                              #15
                              I’m fine with no ball detents.

                              but sometimes something happens and a double feed occurs and it’s a helpful feature then and is basically maintenance free so I think it’s a worthy improvement

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