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    Blazer Rebuild Musings/Ramblings

    I'm in the process of rebuilding the Blazer I just purchased. I doubt any of this will be interesting to anyone else. This will just be my musings about various things I find interesting. A repository of info as a backup to my own memory. I bought this Blazer knowing full well that it was a project, this is not an indictment of the seller.

    Blazer Timing Guide, for reference and part numbers [in brackets]: https://palmerspursuit.com/pages/timing-a-blazer



    Part 1: Disassembly, AKA Don't Be an Idiot Like Me

    Most of the disassembly is pretty straight forward. Start pulling screws out. Beware of the loctite. A spot of heat is your friend.

    First thing I noticed was on the bolt, the Bolt Pin Retaining Screw [74] is AWOL. That will need to be replaced. The Bolt Pin Knob unscrews, but is blue? loctited on. Some heat and soft jaw pliers help.





    Second thing noticed, the Velocity Cap Retaining Screw [21] is crooked. Looks like the thread in the Velocity Cap [20] doesn't quite line up with the hole in the body and the screw has gone in crooked and chewed up some threads. Fun.




    The next interesting thing was the switch. It was assembled with a rubber gasket between the Switch Plug [6] and the first Outer Switch Cup [7] that is not shown on the PPS disassembly picture. The switch cups are interesting too. No two are alike. The two inner ones have different styles of notches in them (one has two small rectangular, the other has one large half round). Maybe there was a change over in design and the two versions were all thrown together in a bin? Shouldn't affect function, just interesting. The one outer cup has a step in the bore that will not allow the Switch Stem [11] to pass fully through, thus this cup must be the last cup in.




    The last thing of minor note is the P-Block [30] is blue? loctited onto the Ram Piston Assembly [26]. A little heat and a padded grip on the ram shaft takes care of it.



    And then we come to me being an idiot. The Rock disassembly. The Rock Cap [43] and Plunger Assembly [40] all come out, no problems. A coin in the slot and it unscrews. The Rock Valve Body [70] on the other hand... I made a mess of it. First of all, copious amounts of loctite. Heat loosened it, but the debris still gummed up in the threads bad. I started off using a nickel held with some pliers, but just ended up with a bent nickel and a really gouged up slot in the valve body. To the point that any further attempts to use a coin or washer just caused them to cam out like a badly stripped phillips head screw. I needed a solution because I had the valve body partially unscrewed so the o-rings might not seal, and I had applied a good amount of heat so they were probably cooked too. I decided to sleep on it, and in the morning I came up with an idea for a tool:



    A 3/4" OD steel rod with a 5/16" pin centered, and protrusions hacksawed/filed to fit in the slot. The centering pin might not be strictly necessary, it fits in the 1/8" NPT threaded hole and helps keep everything centered. It is long enough that the rod sticks up past the end of the Blazer's body so you can get full rotation. Materials sourced from Lowes. My Lowes was out of 3/4" steel rods in the raw stock section, so I ended up using a "rebar pin": https://www.lowes.com/pd/Steel-Rebar...-18-in/4008133 This actually worked out well, comes painted for high speed low drag and has cross-drilled holes that you can insert a rod or hex key to get leverage. I used vice grips like an animal.

    However, this tool alone still kept wanting to cam out. I had an epiphany to use a bar clamp to provide the downward force to keep the tool engaged. And finally I was able to remove the valve body. I seem to be lacking a picture of the valve body, but trust me, I did a number on it. It still functions, it just looks like a trained rat with a file went to town on the slot.




    And with that, I have one completely disassembled Blazer. More to follow.

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    Rock cap removal tool:

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    • Jackson

      Jackson

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      That will help remove the Rock Cap. But it won't help with removing the Rock Valve Body. Cap is threaded 3/8-24. Valve body is 1/8" NPT.

    • Walker

      Walker

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      They must have made a change between the 1k and 2ks... I use the same tool for both, on the 1k.

    #3
    Part 2: Standard Parts

    Cataloging some of the off-the-shelf components. For replacement purposes. And some comments. Since I am not the original owner, I can't know if this is how it came from the factory, or if someone has swapped out things. I received a Rebuild Kit with the gun that was still factory sealed. Not sure on its vintage.


    O-rings/Gaskets (B = Buna-N, U = Urethane):

    2. ASA O-rings -012 Originals were green, felt like B70 o-rings, Rebuild Kit ones are black B90 o-rings. Shouldn't matter here, static seal.
    5. Plunger O-ring -112 Original was B70, Rebuild Kit one is B70, the recent Stabilizer rebuild kits that I've purchased have a U90 here, I replaced it with a U90.
    9. Switch Cup O-rings 1.2mm X 5.7mm The infamous quickswitch o-rings whose size only those with the last name Palmer know. They are 1.2mm X 5.7mm metric. In the drawing here, they are listed as 46-224. .046in = 1.2mm, .224in = 5.7mm. My rebuild kit doesn't have any. I will have to order.
    10. Switch Stem O-Rings -003 Rebuild kit ones are B90. I tried using B70, but I guess the way the softer material extrudes in the groove, they end up too small to seal. My switch is sticking currently, not sure if the o-rings need to work in or need to be replaced. I'm ordering some other options to try.
    15. Valve Guide O-Rings -015 In the PPS Technical Repository sticky, Tim Firpo's image says they are -014. I disagree. There were no -014 o-rings in my rebuild kit and -014 measures a size too small for the groove. The rebuild kit's -015 were B90, but I found that these made the valve incredibly difficult to install. B70s worked perfectly. Opposite problem of the switch stem o-rings.
    23. Ram Piston Bumper (outer) 3/8" OD, 9/64" ID, 1/16" Thk black buna gasket?
    24. Ram Piston Bumber (inner) -010 B90
    25. Ram Piston O-ring -011 B70
    28. Ram Bushing O-ring (outer) -012 B90
    29. Ram Bushing O-ring (inner) -010 B90
    38. Rock Seal 0.240" OD, 0.180" ID, 1/16" Thk black buna gasket? Maybe 1/4" OD, 3/16" ID nominally
    68. Rock Valve Body O-ring (upper) -016 B70
    69. Rock Valve Body O-ring (lower) -112 B70



    Screws:
    6. Switch Plug 3/8-24 x 3/16 hollow-lock https://www.mcmaster.com/91301A160/
    16. Valve Guide Retaining Screw 5/16-24 x 3/8 cup point set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/92311A597/
    21. Velocity Cap Retaining Screw 8-32 x 7/16 hex drive flat head https://www.mcmaster.com/91253A193/ This one looks like it was replaced on my Blazer, so length might not be quite correct.
    22. Velocity Screw 3/8-24 x 0.328" set screw It might have started as a 3/8", the end has clearly been trimmed flat. A 1/8" hole is cross-drilled for a plastic insert (string trimmer line) to prevent backing out.
    31. P-Block Retaining Screw 8-32 x 3/16 cup point set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/91375A189/
    32. Hopper Lock Screw
    34. Barrel Retaining Screw
    39. ASA Gas Tube Screw 3/8-24 x 1 button head These look to be specifically made for the Blazer. But you might be able to replace with a modified standard button head screw. Drilled down the center and a cross drilled hole.
    44. Rock Adjusting Screw 3/8-24 x 1/2 cup point set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/91375A644/
    47. Sear Pin Lock Screw 8-32 x 1/8 cup point set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/91375A188/
    50. Sear Adjustment Screw 6-32 x 1/4 might have started as a flat tip and was ground into a more rounded shape and polished
    56. Trigger Rod Retaining Screw 4-40 x 1/8 slotted fillister head https://www.mcmaster.com/91794a103/
    65. Safety Spring Screw 4-40 x 1/8 cup point set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/91375A103/
    66. Frame Screw 10-32 x 1/2 button head https://www.mcmaster.com/91255A265/
    71. Trigger Return Spring Retaining Screw 6-32 x 5/16 cup point set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/91375A145/
    74. Bolt Pin Retaining Screw 5/16-24 x 5/32 hollow-lock https://www.mcmaster.com/91301A150/
    78. Up Travel Set Screw 6-32 x 5/16 flat tip set screw https://www.mcmaster.com/94105a314/


    More coming when I have time.
    Last edited by Jackson; 12-08-2022, 10:48 AM.

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      #4
      Blazer ASA banjo bolts are virtually the same as a pre2k Cocker banjo bolt, so you can run Cocker front block screws or LPCs if you want.

      Also... 003-70 urethane orings feel great in Quickswitches of any flavour.
      Last edited by Jordan; 11-22-2022, 05:02 PM.
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      • Jackson

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        Got some urethane ones on order.

      #5
      I've got a new Rock Valve Body on order from Palmers. After talking with Craig, I don't feel so bad about messing mine up. In his words "Yeah, I f*** those up all the time." Also got some other stuff...

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