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    So I decided to mess with my old Pro-Lite and...

    ...I was hella surprised.

    Back in 1996, I bought a Pro-Lite new because my observation back then was that players who ran Pro-Lites didn't spend much if any time in the staging area messing with their hardware; they reloaded and went out on the field, no problems. Once I had one, I loved it. Now, time marched on and I gave up paintball for a long minute (about 20 years actually) and my old Pro-Lite sat in storage.

    Recently I've dug my old gear out with the intention of wanting to play again (which I have, paintball is still awesome) but I've assumed my Pro-Lite which sat in a shipping container for 20+ years was basically dead. And why wouldn't I? Sure, Tippmann markers have a legendary reputation for toughness and reliability, but come on...rubber is rubber, y'all. This marker sat in the worst conditions for two decades. I've been basically assuming it needs a full rebuild at least to get it going, and thanks to how its a fundamentally antiquated design I've shoved rebuilding it to the back burner.

    Last night though, in a moment of "what happens when I poke it with a stick?" Levels of wine-induced whimsical curiosity, I decided to just screw a modern HPA tank onto my old Pro-Lite. I figured disaster was imminent. Instead, the fucker aired up. Like, it sealed without a problem. I could absolutely not believe it. I dry-cycled it a couple of times like "what in the AK-47 levels of sorcery is happening here??" but no, the seal seemed to hold. Then, I fetched my old Viewloader, loaded some paint into a hopper, took my Pro-Lite outside and shot it. The paint flew...and then a ball rolled out the barrel. After a quick check I determined that the detent "nubbin" had been ripped off. Some Google work confirmed that modern Tippmann detents work with older models (thank you Tippmann) so while I was at the local paintball shop today to explore Black Friday deals I picked up a new detent for my Pro-Lite. Total cost? $3.50. And it feeds paint just fine. And the store determined that it was actually shooting hot (like 310-315 fps) so I need to turn it down if I want to play with it.

    Y'alll...This is a marker that sat in storage and received no care for over 20 years, and it runs just fine fresh out of that situation with less than five bucks in parts. To me, that is absolutely wild.

    #2
    That is amazing. I've always wanted one, it might be time to snag one.

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      #3
      Originally posted by chazgo2 View Post
      That is amazing. I've always wanted one, it might be time to snag one.
      If you want one, get them now. From what I've seen vintage Tippmann markers are dirt-ass cheap on the used market, but that might not last. I remember in the late 90s/early 2000s you couldn't give pump guns away...these days everyone wants them.

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        #4
        Yep that sounds right for good old Tippys. Get some air tool oil in her to keep it going and then take that thing out and play with it. The Smart Parts barrel alone is awesome.
        Velcor will save us...

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          #5
          Not surprised. Like you said, rubber is rubber, so eventually something will go, but the old TPI picked their polymers properly, and over and over again I've seen decades-old guns air up and go shoot. I think my 68-Carbine, which was jammed with gummed up ancient paint that froze the bolt when I rescued her, still held air
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            #6
            Have similar experience with my Pro-am, the all metal version of yours. I put a tank on it every 5 years or so and off we go. Just as you mentioned, keep some detents handy though.
            "but we all have electros and you guys only have pumps, this wont be fair"

            (chuckling quietly) "we know"

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              #7
              Traded for my prolite on mcb back in 2005. It was supposedly an ex rental but was in really good shape. I modified it to what you see here(nothing that can’t be returned to stock with another foregrip and trigger frame) but the internals are what came in the gun. I play with this a LOT. I’m sure someday all have to replace something besides the detent and bumper, right?

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                #8
                The local field pulled one out of a foot of mud (it got lost the year before by a renter - the mud is legendary at this field) and it held air and still worked after being buried for 8 months (including winter freeze/spring thaw).

                ProLites are awesome.
                Last edited by Jordan; 11-25-2023, 03:09 PM.
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                “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

                And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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                  #9
                  I’m pretty sure TPI orings were made of Polyunobtainiuathane.

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                  • Drunkscriblerian
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                    I'd call it "Polyduraindistructithane", but otherwise I'd agree.

                  • Drunkscriblerian
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                    I'd call it "Polyduraindistructithane", but otherwise I'd agree.

                  #10
                  Ok this thread is great , when I get home I’m digging in a bin and putting air to my Carbine and seeing what happens. Pretty sure it will just work like they do.

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                    #11
                    Also, like to point out that the op is more proof the many prolites run a ok on hpa. Hey that rhymes

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                    • Drunkscriblerian
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                      Yeah, I kept hearing that they wouldn't take to HPA, but after a day's play with relatively little issues I'd have to say they work just fine. Hell, once temp-related issues inherent to C02 were taken out of the equation my Pro-Lite actually ran *better* on HPA than it did back in the day.

                    • Myrkul

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                      I've built 3, and none of them "liked" HPA. They would cycle, but velocity was never above 240s. I've found that replacing the gas line with steel braid solved the issue every single time.

                    #12
                    Well as expected not an issue here. motivation now to use this next time out.
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                    • NONOBLITUS

                      NONOBLITUS

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                      glaman5266 it’s the bolt in front of the air line. In and out increases and decreases velocity

                    • Chappy

                      Chappy

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                      I think Glaman is just missing it since it’s pretty far in.
                      These are the best tippy, I have to agree. I have 6 loaners for my backyard field because they are rock solid and reliable.
                      My personal shooter has a lightened hammer, jcs rva, and a hogged out power tube with the velocity adjuster replaced with a grub. Smooth as a baby’s behind

                    • Myrkul

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                      Here is another vote for the Pro-Carbine being the best Tippmann ever made. They run freaking great every time.

                    #13
                    So, I took the old war-horse to the field today. It worked beautifully; I had a few issues with sputtering that were solved with a little oil, and a bit of paint breakage that I 100 percent blame on the paint. Once I oiled it and switched to a fresh bag, the gun ran like a champ. It shot straighter than my A-5 by a wide margin, giving me a couple of magnificent long-ball tagouts that had people cheering. The only other problem was a couple of straight-up refusals to recock (bolt went forward and didn't reciprocate at all) that while I was able to just cock it and keep shooting, indicate to me that a rebuild might be necessary soon-ish.

                    Oh, and the kids were mystified by it; I'd estimate that my Pro-Lite was older than about 80 percent of the player base, and only a handful of people even knew what it was. One kid asked to borrow it for a match and I let him, he came back saying that it was heavy, but the blow-back action "sounded badass". So yeah, there you have it. Vintage Tippmann for the win!

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                    • Myrkul

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                      I usually either cut or hand sand a small ramp in the bolts to clear up breaks due to shitty modern paint. Works like a champ and I haven't had a break since.


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                    • glaman5266
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                      Yeah, it was just far enough in it wasn’t visible in the other pic. Mine just needs to sit further out for whatever reason.

                    #15
                    So y'all...I'm looking at my Pro-Lite, and after playing with it for a day the only real issue with it is that its long and bulky, therefore hard to maneuver around barricades. Also, the fore-end on it is getting a little bit wobbly (28 year old plastic) and said fore-end also makes using modern barrels difficult (they won't clear the hole). Is there any way to install a vertical grip on it so I can use a shorter, more modern barrel? It would also be nice to have a more secure place to put my barrel shroud; its too long to wrap around the back of the gun and wrapping it around the back end of the fore-grip just wasn't very secure at all.

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                    • Drunkscriblerian
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                      @Myrkul: I will probably just modify the shroud then. It's plastic, I've got a Dremel\various other cutting tools, and I'm real tempted in the general sense to just get redneck-DIY on my old Tippy. I'm sure Bill Tippmann would approve lol.

                    • Myrkul

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                      Chappy

                      OpusX has one on his 68 Carbine. I'm not sure if they made one for the Pro-Lite/Pro-Carbine, it would probably work, but might not be quite as secure. The feed necks are different (and way more problematic) for the 68 Carbine, which is what makes those so much more desirable.

                      @Drunkscriblerian

                      Just use a sanding drum on the dremal and go slow, the plastic melts if you go too fast.

                    • Chappy

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                      They work a ok on a prolite or procarb. Plenty secure. Mine wobbled a bit on the power feed itself but it was worn where the pin went in. But the clamp on the body was enough that the lack of the sit rail interface didn’t matter.
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