Clapper-noid Blowbacks: Electros or Still Mech?

[Flounder]

Will it function properly without a battery?

Yes=Mech

No=Electro

[OpusX]

I think we need to address the type of answer based on the context.

1) "Electro" in the game play/player, style on the field.

2) "Electro" in the sense of the technical nature of the markers action.

In case one, it really is the "feature set" qualifications. Does it have microchip controlled firing modes, allowing for ease of use regarding rates of fire? Then yes it is "electro", as in this case we are trying to set a more "equal playing field" with style of play and players. I think this is where people are most salty on the definition as it effects the rental/rec/walk-on play style.

In case two, we start to get into the manner in which the marker operates as Fubarius outlined. In that case there is certainly several more specific definitions that need to be taken into account (spools, popits with spring return, popits with piston return, etc). In that case I would agree E-Frame STBB markers are electro-mechanical.

[Hp_lovecraft]

I do not understand what is polarizing?
For the last 20+ years, anything with an electronic trigger has been considered "electro". A blowback is just a simple pneumatic ram. So an E-spyder that uses a noid to trip a hammer is not much different mechanically then a fully pneumatic hammer, with the fasor somewhere in the middle.

The term "electro" refers to the trigger actuating system. On that regard, there might be a debate about the early electro cockers. Some of the very first ones in the late 90s used a hybrid system, using a mechanical hammer release, but an electropneumatic ram.... So a lighter trigger, electrics involved... but a partially mech trigger? still electro to me but that is harder to define.

On that regard, its like the old Air Power Vector. It had a pneumatic trigger, but years later, someone tried to patent an pneumatic trigger to sell cocker conversions..... blocking others from selling the same. Was the original vector a P/T? The trigger only actuated the ram, but it had a linkage to prevent short strokes. So, again, a grey area in the definition.

[JonM]

If it requires a battery, it's an electro. The same thing could be said for modern spool valve markers. Slap a mechanical frame on a Gamma Core marker and you have an Emek. Take the same gun and throw an electronic frame on it and it becomes an Etha 2. I actually have this very setup in my gun case. Whether it's a spool valve marker or a poppet is irrelevant.

[Trbo323]

Electro

It's not about the internals of the marker it's about how the trigger functions

There's e mags and mech mags as well and even though the e mags are technically electro assist, they are still considered e markers

Here's a screwball for you though, valken proton. Clapper noid directly actuated a spool valve

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[Magmoormaster]

Are there electronics in the gun? Yes?

It's electronic.