Time for a new gun?

[Brokeass_baller]

+1 for the eNMEy. I own two. That should say something. I don't know what's up with these flexible plastic comments. Both of mine are rock solid. It's really easy to modify the trigger pull to be very short. One of mine also has an Empire Relay modded to it, so it's all internal airlines. You can mod Ion bodies to fit, and people 3D print original designs for these as well. Fun guns to mess around with.

Emeks are nice. Honestly, at $220, I would highly recommend them. But now that they're $270, I have a hard time. You figure you're probably going to put in a new trigger, maybe a Hair or Bang Switch, POPs, etc, before you know it you've spent as much as a used m170r. And stock it's double the price of the eNMEy new. That just kills it for me.

If I may add another suggestion, gmek's are awesome markers. If you like sliders, they have a nice one. I had one with a Bang Switch and Stanchy soft tip bolt sand it shot incredibly well. I really regret getting rid of it.

[Ironnerd]

OK... not a lot of love for the FT-12...

[Tinybear]

Honestly. If you want a new tippmann I’d say opt for the A5. Easier to maintain than the 98. Lot of fun to mess with. I really like them have had a few.

but that being said as fun and good as they maybe. They are way overpriced for the performance you get.

[Jonnydread]

OK... not a lot of love for the FT-12...

Nah they are field guns, they'll keep running, but they aren't particularly enjoyable to use. You're better off with an older Tippman (procrab, 68, etc.) if you want something fun and reliable.

Everyone and their grandma has an Emek boner, and they are good guns, but like Brokeass_baller said they are less enticing at the $270 price point. The amount of upgrades available are cool, but mostly unnecessary for the average player.

I really like my eNMey, it's got a lot of personality for a spoolie and has proven to be quite reliable.

[Brokeass_baller]

The eNMEy feels almost autococker-y. I think that's why I like it so much.

[Ironnerd]

Innnnteresting....

I did enjoy playing with the Autococker I had.

[Cdn_Cuda]

I’d echo Tinybear. For a Tippmann grab an A-5 or even an X7 Phenom if you want less moving parts. I’d even suggest a BT-4 if you want simple and easy to deal with. It’s like an A5 without the cyclone and are usually dirt cheap.

[Ironnerd]

A-5's are pretty interesting.

[Cdn_Cuda]

But I wouldn’t buy a new A5 or BT-4, just pick one up for cheap on the used market.

[Ironnerd]

Guys, ya'll are supposed to be helping me to NARROW the search...

OK... Let's talk Azodin for a moment.
Any gun that uses 'cocker barrels gets moved up the list. I have a bunch of Spyder parts and pieces, and made a few working guns from them (they are a bit like Legos).

If an Azodin is a "nice" Spyder with 'cocker threads, then it definitely moves up the totem pole.

[Cunha]

An Emek isn't a lot more than an Azodin and really seems to be exactly what you're looking for as a gun for pure joy.

[The Inflicted]

If you're a cocker/sniper guy an Emek is going to feel a little long and stretched out to you. Otherwise, it or the EMF-100 would be a perfect choice.

eNMEys are great too, and are more compact. Mine was my go-to gun for years and is now my designated loaner. https://youtu.be/f0L9JOtXt0I?t=4m37s

[Ironnerd]

I'm more of a Cocker/Sniper/Mag/Nelson/Sheridan/Tippmann/Spyder/ICD kinda guy.

To quote Url from Futurama, "They're all beautiful, Baby."

[BigRed]

If you are looking at the Azodin KD3, the Emek is only $40 more and as you said earlier you prefer no external air lines. If you are sticking with the eNMy then the price is significant. It looks to me you need to decide on a budget. That said, if this is the 1st new you've bought in over a decade then paying a little more is justified...not that you need permission.

[Trbo323]

Guys, ya'll are supposed to be helping me to NARROW the search...

OK... Let's talk Azodin for a moment.
Any gun that uses 'cocker barrels gets moved up the list. I have a bunch of Spyder parts and pieces, and made a few working guns from them (they are a bit like Legos).

If an Azodin is a "nice" Spyder with 'cocker threads, then it definitely moves up the totem pole.

You basically just described the azodin markers.

The base kaos, usually its around $70 and it's pretty comparable to the spyder victor 2. Here's some differences though

The ONLY o ring the kaos uses is a 015 tank o ring. Have like 6 of them kicking around? You havea rebuild kit

All of the fittings are industry standard, want to switch to macro? No problem, no funky metric threads to worry about

2 hole direct mount on the frame, while later spyders had this as well it's on all azodin markers so you can mount up anything you want

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

[Trbo323]

Guys, ya'll are supposed to be helping me to NARROW the search...

OK... Let's talk Azodin for a moment.
Any gun that uses 'cocker barrels gets moved up the list. I have a bunch of Spyder parts and pieces, and made a few working guns from them (they are a bit like Legos).

If an Azodin is a "nice" Spyder with 'cocker threads, then it definitely moves up the totem pole.

You basically just described the azodin markers.

The base kaos, usually its around $70 and it's pretty comparable to the spyder victor 2. Here's some differences though

The ONLY o ring the kaos uses is a 015 tank o ring. Have like 6 of them kicking around? You havea rebuild kit. The markers with regulators of course have more sizes but just as a exercise in simplicity that's how the base kaos works

All of the fittings are industry standard, want to switch to macro? No problem, no funky metric threads to worry about

2 hole direct mount on the frame, while later spyders had this as well it's on all azodin markers so you can mount up anything you want

I've heard good things about the valves in their upper end stuff but I've never owned one so can't say from personal experience

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

[Ironnerd]

See... THAT is some solid info. Thank-you.

[The Inflicted]

You basically just described the azodin markers.

The base kaos, usually its around $70 and it's pretty comparable to the spyder victor 2. Here's some differences though

The ONLY o ring the kaos uses is a 015 tank o ring. Have like 6 of them kicking around? You havea rebuild kit

All of the fittings are industry standard, want to switch to macro? No problem, no funky metric threads to worry about

2 hole direct mount on the frame, while later spyders had this as well it's on all azodin markers so you can mount up anything you want

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

Don't bother with the low-end Azodin stuff like the ATS or Centurion, though. These don't have the innovative features the rest of the line does and aren't cocker-threaded. I'm not even sure Azodin is the actual OEM.

[Ironnerd]

Don't bother with the low-end Azodin stuff like the ATS or Centurion, though. These don't have the innovative features the rest of the line does and aren't cocker-threaded. I'm not even sure Azodin is the actual OEM.

I was looking at Kaos III on up.

I looked at the low-end Azodins that Amazon sells, but Azodine does not list on their website. And I said to myself, "I buhlieve I'll pass".

[Tinybear]

Look for a left over KDII. Gives you all the bells and whistles at a fraction of the cost.

Brand new off ANS gear there $169. And for that you have a solid little blow back with a great regulator, on/off Asa, lever lock clamping feed neck nice two piece barrel and Azodins Zero system (have not got a chance to mess with mine) that allows you to tune the marker to be either softer on paint or more air efficient.

The only benefit to go to the KDiii is getting the single trigger frame (they are nice as I have that frame on my Kaos pump). But that can be added later if you so choose.

[Ironnerd]

Reeeeaaaalllly.....

[Trbo323]

Guys, ya'll are supposed to be helping me to NARROW the search...

OK... Let's talk Azodin for a moment.
Any gun that uses 'cocker barrels gets moved up the list. I have a bunch of Spyder parts and pieces, and made a few working guns from them (they are a bit like Legos).

If an Azodin is a "nice" Spyder with 'cocker threads, then it definitely moves up the totem pole.

You basically just described the azodin markers.

The base kaos, usually its around $70 and it's pretty comparable to the spyder victor 2. Here's some differences though

The ONLY o ring the kaos uses is a 015 tank o ring. Have like 6 of them kicking around? You havea rebuild kit. The markers with regulators of course have more sizes but just as a exercise in simplicity that's how the base kaos works

All of the fittings are industry standard, want to switch to macro? No problem, no funky metric threads to worry about

2 hole direct mount on the frame, while later spyders had this as well it's on all azodin markers so you can mount up anything you want

I've heard good things about the valves in their upper end stuff but I've never owned one so can't say from personal experience

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

[Ironnerd]

It believe it was information worth repeating.

[Trbo323]

I use tapatalk and sometimes it has issues. This particular time it told me it has not sent that post yet but it was still saved so I sent it again. Turns out it had sent it the first time it just hadn't refreshed the page

[Brokeass_baller]

Just use your browser. The new mobile-friendly mcb is fantastic.

[Ironnerd]

Does it surprise any of you that I am now thinking of getting an Azodin KPC?



Pump: good
Cocker barrel: good
Regulator: good
Smaller paint bill: good

It'll look good next to the Sniper and Razorback (and Tiger Shark )