Time for a new gun?

[Shaftski]

That ans price for a KPC is too high. I just picked up a KP3.5 SE for $249 new.

Looks like the only color that azodin has available for dealers to order right now is purple/earth though.

[Ironnerd]

Purple/Earth... Ewh...

[gabe]

Emek

I mean this really isn't a choice. If you had to pick just one gun to play with on any field with any group and not feel particularly out-gunned and also a gun that never has mechanical problems...it's the Emek. Being an open bolt you don't even need a barrel kit and if you get the PALS hopper you don't even need any batteries at all. It's really the most perfect entry to mid level gun.

That being said I'm thoroughly smitten by my Shocker CVO and they're just a teeny tiny bit more money used than a new Emek and I feel like you get a whole lot more gun for the money. The downside is they are for sure not as reliable as the PE gamma core in the Emek.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Not as efficient either. They got a super nice trigger out of the box tho.

[gabe]

Well yes but it's so pedantic a difference as to not matter. Both are far more efficient than even my autococker and blow an Azodin out of the water for efficiency. The Emek's efficiency really comes into its own when you're using a small tank setup which is nice.

Between the two the CVO is a better buy straight up. By the time you get an Emek and put a decent trigger in it you could have bought a used CVO.

[Ironnerd]

AND... when Azodine wants about $300 for a pump, $270(ish) for an Emek starts to become more attractive.

I fail to understand why we pay a premium for a pump marker.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Lower volume of sales. Pump products sell slower and less are made so the market adjusts to it. Overhead cost increase when smaller batches are made. Company’s like CCM can charge what they want because they make superior limited quantity American made markers. The market allows it, and People pay it.

You also have material cost. The pump is mostly all aluminum and stainless. The Emek is mostly plastic.

[Tinybear]

The emek just don’t make any sense here at $400cdn.

I think for new here a Azodin KP3 is still a $350 marker but it’s got everything included (aka better barrel on/off Asa, and nice anodized aluminum construction).

as much as I dislike the feel of the marker. And I hate the gardeners. The GOG eNMEy pro is the far better deal for a new semi auto. But for me i enjoy messing about with my azodins for fun and have built my Automags for my favorite main shooters.

[Jordan]

The emek just don’t make any sense here at $400cdn.

I think for new here a Azodin KP3 is still a $350 marker but it’s got everything included (aka better barrel on/off Asa, and nice anodized aluminum construction).

as much as I dislike the feel of the marker. And I hate the gardeners. The GOG eNMEy pro is the far better deal for a new semi auto. But for me i enjoy messing about with my azodins for fun and have built my Automags for my favorite main shooters.

A standard feed Mag was $500 cdn 20 years ago... to put things in perspective. And you still needed a bottomline just to use it.... and maybe a barrel, I can't remember.

[Ironnerd]

So... just for comparison, how much is a Tippmann 98 in Canada?

[Jordan]

Looks like a Platinum 98 at Badlands is $260.

[BigRed]

Canadian Tire has a 98 player package for $180

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/tippmann-98-power-pack-0757075p.html&ved=2ahUKEwjSnpmcw8LwAhWQVc0KHaTbBMIQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw2ZiwlP3oJY1FWe_cuQIVRe