About ASA (and a barrel too)

[punkncat]

Some of you may have seen my postings on the FB concerning this issue.

Luke AO (Customs) offered forth a little challenge to see how fast we could get a T-Rex pneumag to go. I was in the midst of testing this, marker is rolling +20 for sure...sounded like a little pneumatic chisel....So, ran the pressure up to 1100 for said test and BOOM! The POPS Macrofitting broke AT the threads. I knew they weren't rated that high, but figured there was some wiggle room. Big Evil comes in thread (on the AGD group) to mention that the WORKING pressure for these ASA and fittings are 300 PSI, with a BURST of 800.
I know a shit load of people are using these at far higher pressure and I myself have run the other one I have at 1100 PSI for MANY games.

So...for the first part of my question/post:
I completely planned the bottomline look of this build around this POPS. The frame is slotted for it, the ano is a good match....but I have ZERO confidence in it moving forward.
What other bottomlines have the air fitting come straight out the front, have the ability to turn on/off, and use a standard fitting size such that I "could" use braided if I wanted to? I DO NOT want to use the Inception ASA unless there is simply no better option. (nothing against them).

So, second part of the post:
AS I was testing this, and as mentioned, the marker was shooting like a little air chisel and while doing so caused the fiber part of my DW barrel to back itself away from the metal threaded part. I have contacted DW just to see how or if it's repairable.

Not sure the photo aspect is working properly yet....I can readily post them to the FB page if you 'need' to see what I am talking about....

Glad to see the place back, BTW.

[Deadmeat99]

As far as the same mounting it is only the POPS and the inception that have the fitting straight out the front.

There are some older eclipse on/ offs that have the fitting out the side but use the same t-rail style.

The GOG asa has a front outlet and uses standard macro fittings, but it is a dovetail mount.

[Whee McGee]

An inline on/off that isn't the POPS or ID EZ pretty much limits you to Dye Airports or Slaps, though I'm not sure if they use regular fittings. Everything else I see is sideline.
I also don't imagine glue to last the turmoil of an air chisel, haha. You should probably test with a solid barrel. Hopefully they can just reinsert the carbon fiber or send you a new one.

I also swapped from the POPS because of the fitting, but that's because I wanted matching black ones from Nummech and that fitting is dumb. I moved to another ID EZ, though. Good luck with your hunt, though honestly if not ID I would just slap a CP on there and be done.

[Magmoormaster]

There’s a lap the later OOPS on/offs that are similar to the old angel ASAs. Not sure if they use a regular fitting though.

theres a bunch of options for different inline on/offs but almost all of them are rail mounted not t slots.

[Knuckle Dragger]

I’m amazed the fitting broke at the threads rather than blowing the line out from the retainer. Did the fitting shear or the threads pull out of the ASA?

[Altec]

it may be viable to have the ASA drilled and tapped for 1/8NPT over that 10-32 thread it has. Maybe talk to Jake?

I had commented on your FB post speculating the threads were fatigued. Diving further into the subject I base this on availability of other 10-32 UNF fittings made from brass that are rating to 2000psi and above. McMaster has the compression fittings in stock. So if the threaded area isn’t the limiting factor that gives the push connects such a low rating the failure you have is likely from another source. Overtightening fatiguing the threads, or the hard line being so stiff it was putting strain on the fitting while the marker was operating. You could likely replace the fitting and not have another ounce of bother. Otherwise modifying that ASA or going to a ID ASA is about your only option.

[punkncat]

It sheared at the point between the threads and the fitting. I can only assume that the pressure and the very high ROF I was attempting played into the failure and as evidenced by the barrel backing out.

I would have to look closer. What I see the issue being with drilling larger is depth for the new fitting threads. It may work otherwise, not sure.

[nerdcore]

The on/off on a Resurrection or Sniper has a front fitting that isn't recessed at all. But I haven't looked closely at how it's mounted.

[spikeball]

If you can find one, as they've been out of production for some time now, Function on/off ASA is direct mount front port. Favorite asa ever.

[Fubarius]

I'm nearly certain the Planet Eclipse OOPS 2 ASA is exactly what you're looking for. T-rail, on/off, fitting in the front, and that fitting is 1/8NPT (if I'm not mistaken).

[punkncat]

Thanks fellas...

I am thinking there may be even more to the mystery. My "brand new" SHP reg was pressurized under it's thread protector yesterday. Have no idea what it's output pressure MAY have run to, or why it would be sticking open/leaking. I had to loosen a burst plug so I could get the cap off. Will use a tester on it at the field and see what it's putting out. I cannot imagine it being OVER 1.7K as that is the low burst disk and it is currently intact.

As a side note, I have put a classic valve back on this for now, as I attempt to resolve these other issues. It is running from a 650 output, and will try to tune in operation down at the field today.
This has been a costly little experiment for me.

Lol, other/other side note. Last night I was out putting some things back in my bag and noted that the spot I was standing over (the divider for one of the areas) has a 20" rip across the top of the fabric where the pressure release must have been directed. Having a look at that makes me even more thankful that nothing went off specifically in my direction.