.690 nelson paint - we want it, we can get it we just have to work together ...

[russc]

I know it wasn't their paint, but is there an option for something like Gater Black? For the youngins, black shell with neon green fill. Hard to see where its shot from and hard to insta-wipe.

If we're going for a custom run, I would absolutely love to have something like this with black shell!

As far as *why* you'd want big paint, a huge advantage besides working with older guns, is marginally longer range and accuracy. Going from .680 to .690 should result in about 4.5% more mass, which means you get 4.5% more impact energy with the same velocity, and 4.5% more inertial resistance to perturbing forces in flight.

If I could get paint consistently in the .685 range, it wouldn't be worth it, but I've been getting paint sizing as small as the high .670's, so bumping to .690 should actually be a noticeable difference.

[Siress]

Bro.

This is my jam. I'm in for a case. If I had any time to play, I'd be in for more.

1) My vote goes for the old Upheaval combo; pink fill with pearlescent shell.
2) Check this out for paint quality metrics and discussion therein.

[Drcemento]

Thanks Siress,
I was hoping to see you around here.
also nice to see some qualifying data to back up what i always held true - those bigger balls reached out and touched people! I can remember countless times in that period where paint started getting smaller and cheaper and guys unleashing a wall of paint at me at long range and just seeing them fall short and go every which way. 3-4 shots from my trusty cocker at 280 with some of that big GAP paint in it and I would ring that dudes bell. I got allot of "that guys shooting hot" or "check his gun" and "why do i smell like bananas!?"

To update everyone,
I will admit to a week ups and downs with allot of "what did i get myself into's" and allot looking into how to pull this off. - IE a platform where I can set up to take pre-orders

I think nelson is up to the task - I've shot about 500 + rounds in my backyard target range through my cocker, sniper, 3 automags and 2 phantoms. it is every bit as good if not better than Valken graffiti in my opinion. I've also not broken a single ball!

I do need to follow up with Nelson about the spec. I do worry a little about getting the size range just right and really hope they can help with some old manufacturing data.

things have plateaued here in this thread at around 43 cases (thats a conservative count) I have some interest from a paint distributor here in norcal to carry it but he's going to want it at a wholesale price - which is ok since I would not have to ship it and I would break even.

that said I think I may sign the PO and put a deposit down to give this thing a shot it the arm. with that leap of faith I'd have 6 weeks to presell and a deposited order in hand to instill some confidence in people pre-ordering.

the only other catch is timing - we are heading into winter - not a big deal here in cali but definitely not an ideal time for paint sales! on the other hand if we can prove nelson can make the stuff of our dreams and build some steam over winter and get a bigger order in for the playing season....

please let me know your thoughts and post here if you would like to be in on it! it really helps.

FYI the anarchy I got is orange pearlescent with orange fill - nice stuff. I do like pink though...
will ask about the black shell as many have commented on it here.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Only issue I have with pink fill is it can stain like a MF. Anyone that has played ICC knows this. Anything white is now pink after washing my gear. Pink stands out great but I don’t like paint for rec that stains. I personally prefer a bright shell so I can track it. At the same time so can everyone else. I just feel I loose more then they do with with a dark shell. But I honestly will buy whatever these are just my preferences.

You could always do a poll when we get close. I think proving the concept a larger ball will still sell and sell well is more important then the color anyway. I know I’m in for two cases. But if it’s good I will buy it regularly for my stock class markers because I know a larger ball shoots better.

[Shaftski]

Pink fill is banned on some rec fields. It really doesn't belong in rec play due to staining IMO.

I've shot a few bags of different colors of the nelson ag-1 stuff and both orange and green fill were pretty easy to see breaking at a distance. No need for pink.

I'd be up for trying a case in the spring, just getting too cold out now and I already have over 2 cases to use up.

[Siress]

Only issue I have with pink fill is it can stain like a MF.

Pink fill is banned on some rec fields. It really doesn't belong in rec play due to staining IMO.

Huh.. I guess I never noticed since everyone I played with wore dark clothing that they didn't give a crap about. I can see how that would clash with the 'fashion' side the sport has developed in some areas. I concede the pink fill. Don't want to limit the reach. The silver pearlescent shell with any bright fill (orange, yellow, green) would be great.

[MrBarraclough]

In that same vein, might as well go for "interesting" fill, such as adding mica powder or food-grade glitter.

But I suppose a good ethical principle would be to not shoot anything you wouldn't be willing to get hit with. And while the idea of making my opponents FABULOUS with glitter paint really amuses me, I'd hate to get hit with that stuff.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Glitter is the herpes of the craft world. I wouldn’t even want to handle paint with glitter in it. Gross rather get hit with deer piss balls they make.

[Nectaris]

Not on board with the glitter for the same reason as first strike. You are just littering everyplace with PET aka plastic.

[Jaceman]

I was looking at a way to get some in SoCal, and the shipping charges were tough to swallow. I typically buy 4+ cases so I’m not having to make trips to ANS all the time.

id be down for some Nelson if it wouldn’t kill me to ship it.

[Siress]

Glitter is the herpes of the craft world. I wouldn’t even want to handle paint with glitter in it. Gross rather get hit with deer piss balls they make.

The corn scented paintballs smell amazing... I mean, truly... enough to make me want boil a crop of corn and get the 5gal buckets of butter and salt out.

[uglyduckling]

In for two case of heavy .690

I had a couple of cases if anarchy in my cart a couple of weeks ago but didn't pull the trigger. The shipping kills it and if it's not even .685 or larger I'm not as enthused.

[Jonnydread]

The last time I bought Anarchy (2019) it was sizing out to around .686. Decently big, but it was the consistency that amazed me.

[Drcemento]

Definitely owe an update here…
This plan is not dead, the last month has been crazy at my business and I had to tie allot of unexpected $$$ up in trying to stay ahead of the constant “ supply chain issues” (If I hear that phrase one more time!) so we could keep production moving at my shop.

I did register a website domain and open up a paypal business account. Thinking this will be the best way to take the orders. PP allows a presale to happen up to 20 days prior to recieving goods. I should be able to put the PO in early in the new year and don’t mind fronting the deposit. Once we get within twenty days of it shipping I’ll open up the site for orders and hopefully take a nice bite out of the final bill.

I have since played a couple times with the anarchy I purchased, and have since ordered a couple more cases. I have to say - its the best paint I’ve used in years. I’ve played with an Adco Mirage red dot on my phantom for 15 years or so now and I know how to use it. When paints bad I really know it. I felt like my old self again, making shots through tiny openings or tagging elbows dangling out from behind a tree. At $100/ case shipped its a tough sell for sure, but a couple sweet head shots make it totally worth it in my book! Hopefully some more people here get some and post their opinions.

[Chuck E Ducky]

I would pay $100 for superior paint quality. I will definitely give it a shot. Especially when Stock class season rolls around again in the North East. If I can get my hands on a proof of concept, I bet I can sell some to my local pro shop. They may even want to stock it's if it truly a better ball and it will sell at a premium.

[MuKen]

Any news on this? I'm super interested as I have hopes it would allow me to comfortably shoot roundball in my CAM870 build, as it stands now the shells can only retain first strike by default. To use roundball I have to use tape detents, which is both a pain and not great for accuracy.

[Savet]

I'll buy at least a few cases, probably 4 or more.

[derf87]

I would be interested in a case or 2. Haven't played in 15 years and was not impressed with modern paint. lol Can we get apple scent? 😆

[Criticalhammer]

How about stick to the fill and shell color scheme that is most used by fields? That way pump limited paint players can sneak in something of quality instead use whats sold at the field that takes on the general shape of a rock.

Before people complain "well thats how fields make money". A monopoly in any market hurts the consumer.

I vote purple orange swirl shell, and white fill and will buy 5 cases.