One Thing About One Marker

[Nish]

CCI made all of the Wevo Phantom Undercocking kits .

[Brokeass_baller]

Aw man. Wevo was great. Whatever happened to him?

[DocsMachine]

The Intimidator was originally designed to use up a bunch of Millennium Spyder body extrusion, once sales of the those collapsed.

Doc.

[DocsMachine]

The original PVI Shocker was designed to work at such low pressures, because those were the only compact, battery-voltage solenoids that could be had in quantity.

Doc.

[DocsMachine]

The original Sniper could be had in .50 and .62 cal.

Doc.

[Brokeass_baller]

I think I remember reading that Bud preferred the .50 cal at the time, and it was a .50 cal ball he shot (crap! I can't remember his name at the moment!) with during the court case that legalized paintball in NJ.

[Brokeass_baller]

Gong was his last name. Crap. My memory is starting to go.

[THE SHOOTIST]

NSG Tournament rules prohibited the use of guns with wooden stocks. (An effort to keep the vastly superior KP's out of their tourneys)

[JeeperCreeper]

PGP stands for pump gangster pistol

[Chuck E Ducky]

Renaming my single shot as “Gangster Pistol” now since it lost the first P when it lost its handle and top tube.

[Tarsun2]

Kingman made a FASOR marker at one point

[Jonnydread]

I love Emmies

[glaman5266]

Jonnydread Having Metroid Dread flashbacks now… lol.

And don’t forget the Raven Primal.

[Jonnydread]

@glaman5366 oh shit dude just thinking about that gave me anxiety hahaha

[Ecapnation]

There was an awkward knock off of the kingman hammer marketed as by ASCO called the Mander.

Yes.... ASCO mander.

[Jonnydread]

MCS/RAP-4 mags required the use of anal beads to ready the mag for loading paint.

[Chuck E Ducky]

I figured it was just to loosen up all the tight asses in mag fed. Jk

[Havoc]

That's what makes mag fed so appealing, a bunch of G I Joe wanta bes walking around with sex toys in their belts.

[Brokeass_baller]

This is true. I have two sets of tactical anal beads.

[flyweightnate]

Action Markers guns have 3/4" lower tubes... even the valves.

[MrBarraclough]

After the discontinuation of the ill-fated Proto SLG, the circuit boards made for them (of which I presume Dye suddenly found themselves with a stockpile) were used in the Rail series for years to come. This is slightly surprising because the SLG was a sear-tripper, while the Rails were true electropneumatics. But being dwell-independent, all the solenoid in either marker needs is a "Fire!" impulse from the board. It doesn't really care whether the solenoid is activating a multi-way valve or tripping a sear.

[Brokeass_baller]

I'm pretty sure I remember adjusting the dwell on my old Rail.

[MrBarraclough]

Brokeass_baller The board does have a dwell adjustment setting so far as I recall, though I would question its usefulness since the bolt tail closes off the air supply when the bolt is forward. I suppose a super short dwell might retract the bolt before the dump chamber fully vents (maybe?), but I would suppose that as dwell increases you should quickly it a point where it stops making any difference. Once the dwell is sufficient to completely vent the dump chamber, I don't see what effect any longer dwell would have. Maybe prevent blowback up the feedneck by allowing chamber/barrel pressure to drop back to ambient?

[Brokeass_baller]

Dye guns have (or at least used to) a rep for notoriously high dwell times. I think that is so that the guns can evacuate the dump chamber completely, allowing for lower operating pressure, and a smoother shot.

I think my Rail came at at 40ms or so stock. Shot great. Got only 900-1000 from a 68/4500. Right off the bat I was able to adjust the dwell down to the mid-20ms without velocity drop off. So stock, it used all the air required to propel the ball to velocity, and then continued to dump more air uselessly.

If you up the pressure, velocity would increase, but you could further lower the dwell, until the velocity tapered off into a normal realm. I think I was able to get around 1200 to 1300 shots from a 68/4500 with all of that tweaking. Much, much better. Still shot great, but it did feel poppy-ish. Hard to explain. No kick. Just, poppy.

The short dwell does prohibit the the chamber from completely evacuating. The pressure inside the chamber, and the pressure pushing the bolt rearward is the same at the start. But with the tail o-ring sealing off the dump chamber, once the chamber vents a tiny bit, the pressure drops enough for the bolt to overcome it and reset.

EDIT: Sorry about the typos. I'm having a difficult time editing this on mobile.

[DocsMachine]

The built-in regulator in the SATCO 700 is mounted sideways.

Doc.

[MrBarraclough]

You must have agonized over which of the thousand weird things about the SATCO 700 to post as the one fact. That air-through body panel just blows my mind.

[DocsMachine]

Despite Bud's protestations over the years, yes, the original Snipers were, in fact, little more than aluminum-bodied PGPs.

Doc.

[DocsMachine]

The original AutoCoocker LPRs were so bad, you had to have 'retainers' on the hose ends to keep them from blowing off, and were wrapped with wire to help keep the hoses from bursting.

Bonus: The original Palmer's LPRs, which arguably saved the 'Cocker, were called "Rocks", as in "pressure steady as a rock".

Later factory WGP LPRs were called "Sledgehammers", because those are used to break rocks.

But Rock proved so popular that when Shocktech came out with an LPR, they called it the FGP- unofficially, "F**k Glenn Palmer".

Doc.

[Memornix]

Some mini marshmallows make great ammunition for the Crossman 3357

[Ghostduck2881]

Original Ammunition for the Crossman 3357 in the 1980's were actual plastic shell paintballs. They had to be lubed with WD-40 and the seams had to be placed inside each chamber. Failure to do so resulted in a paint soup every time!