I liked my modified Emek as well over my M170R so I sold the M170R even purchased a second one only to sell it. Still use my Emek and probably will for the foreseeable future. I would like to own a CS2 Mech but I’m not spending the money on something I’m going to beat the breaks off of in 10man. The Emek is all business don’t need flash to clap lens.
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All of the etha markers (except for the original etha) and the gtek markers have always been the "same" internally, and it's not as if PE was pretending otherwise. They will tell you it's the same gamma core in all of these guns and have done so numerous times in their facebook lives. They have the best bolt system in the game, and they get to streamline their production and offer the best performing gun to compete at several different price ranges. It's a win win for them and the consumer. There is more to the product than the bolt system to most players.
I also think just calling the body "plastic" is doing the quality a disservice. The GRN is incredibly durable.
All parts are the same as far as I can tell other than the valve body, and they added wrench flats to the bolt guide at some point. I think they have probably adjusted tolerances (oring glands) on some parts along the way.
The GP core is a different story, but the simple explanation is the valve closes in a "poppet valve" fashion, with an oring on the spool shaft being used as a face seal to close the valve faster, resulting in slightly better efficiency. It's also very satisfying to shoot in mechanical form, it's a very different feel.
Gtek, emek, and etha 2 internals pictured
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The one thing I can't seem to understand is why PE has never offered a version of the FL 3-way for the M170R. Without one, the Etha 3M and upgraded EMEKs actually have a slight performance advantage over the pricier M170R.
The Automag: Not as clumsy or random as an electro. An elegant marker for a more civilised age.
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Originally posted by uglyduckling View PostI also think just calling the body "plastic" is doing the quality a disservice. The GRN is incredibly durable.
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I wish they would offer the Emek series with a slide trigger like they did for the OG Gmek. I get that speed is what most people are looking for, but the Gmek had loads more personality and was way more fun to shoot than the hinge frames on the Emek & Co.💀 PK x Ragnastock 💀
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Originally posted by uglyduckling View PostI also think just calling the body "plastic" is doing the quality a disservice. The GRN is incredibly durable.
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I was shooting both today and noticed I can half stroke my hAir valve’d M170, but could not half stroke the 3M.
does anyone else have issues half-stroking M170Rs?
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The hair valve seems to make all of them a little more susceptible to short stroking. I feel they waste a little bit more air too
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That’s just Trigger adjustment. Put the safety shorten the adjustment of the trigger to stop just before you can’t apply it. Then back it off a little bit. Also Using a pen spring for trigger return helps a-lot too.
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