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    #46
    Modern mid-tier mechanical markers are superior in almost every way to classic high-end mechs.
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      #47
      blowbacks are actually a fantastic design.

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        #48
        Paintball was most fun when I had no money and played illegally on no-trespassing land.
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          #49
          Phantoms are literally too light for their own good, At least with a Sheridan there is some heft so that the gun isn't all over the place just from the action of pumping it. Tried phantoms multiple times, heck even built a super phantom pistol about 6 years ago and even then with it being the purest form with every upgrade I could possibly do it was still meh.
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          • Jonnydread

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            This is why I hate OC Phantoms. Single shots are fine, but if you try to shoot a few in a row it goes full wonky

          • Falcon16

            Falcon16

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            Agreed. Like I said I tried phantoms on a few occasions and just couldn't get over that. My Superstocker is pretty much perfect for an SC gun

          • Hellion360

            Hellion360

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            Part of the reason I love my brass Phantom barrel, its just a heavy chunk!

          #50
          Originally posted by Jonnydread View Post
          Paintball was most fun when I had no money and played illegally on no-trespassing land.
          -Almost hate to say it, but this.

          I played for years before finally trying out a proper for-pay paintball field. Not saying it was bad, but in the 'outlaw' days it was a group of close friends- you were playing your buddies, not a group of walk-ons and two guys with 'bottomless wallet' gear.

          And there was a lot of moving around- somebody would find a cool chunk of property, and either get some vague sort of permission or just find out the owners were out of town or whatever, and we'd spend a few hours stacking deadwood, or scrounging barrels and play.

          When things moved over to 'established field' play, it as basically always the same field- the owners might move the barricades around a little, once a year if you were lucky.

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          • SignOfZeta

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            Yeah...but getting shot at...actually shot at by cops and property owners takes all the fun out of.

          • Meleager7

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            This has been a pipe dream of mine too.......but stuck in suburbia, so no opportunities. I obviously get the idea of supporting local fields, but man , the cost savings of bring your own paint cannot be overstated.

          #51
          Not so unpopular here, but the ABSOLUTE fastest you could ever need your gun to shoot on the field is 15 bps. Even if you came up on a massive group of guys that would do (and you'd probably end up trading with someone regardless of rof). Anything faster is just an exhibition piece for fake internet points, and scaring children.

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          • mlzplayer111
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            He burned my patch

          • Meleager7

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            and i'd expand on this that aside from tournament play ( where i feel you need to have same equipment as your competitors), on any Rec day, if you have a mech gun that you can get up to 7-8 bps on a regular basis, and you're still not competitive or having fun, there might be something wrong with your game, not the perceived slow shooting marker!

          #52
          Ghille suits work

          Should not play paintball until your 11

          Tippmans ruin people's introduction to the sport

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          • mlzplayer111
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            I think the way tippmann markets makes new players buy guns that wont help them and upgrades that they dont need. Starting on an emek gives a lot better taste to the sport.

          • jerryjjackson69

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            Emek is definitely better, but there is nothing wrong with a blowback Tippmann as an introduction. I agree that the upgrades are a total money pit, though.

            Agree on the other statements, even if I don't like ghille suits!

          • mlzplayer111
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            Ghille suits are a pain to set up but they do work w/ FS

          #53
          Massively unrealistic prices on paintball equipment, on ones own, or because one has seen others listed for equally insane prices is a repugnant stain on the sport and one's a parasite for doing it.
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          • lizardking132

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            Look at eBay, there's people trying to sell stock autocockers for $500

          #54
          Dye sticky grips look like trash.

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          • Olsson

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            Couldn't agree more. They look like a jellyfish crawled up on your gun, died there, and you could't be bothered with removing it.

          • SignOfZeta

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            Absolutely. I don’t like rubber grips in general, all of my $$$ wrenches are all metal. Rubber is weak, it deteriorates, chunks come out of it, it’s squishy, slimy, and, yeah, Sticky, and if it’s clear colored it will eventually be that color plus urine.

            Black rubber Hogue grips are OK, wood/metal/plastic is the way to go though.

          #56
          The HK version of Sandanas, pants and shirts are still dope and all the haters are gonna wish they had revenue in this stuff when it was cheap when it's discontinued

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            #57
            Yeah...but getting shot at...actually shot at by cops and property owners takes all the fun out of.
            -Never happened. There was always some kind of vague permission to use the property, but would usually get rescinded when the owner realized how many cars were parked there or how much junk got left behind. (I and others tried to do what we could, but if the 'field' was set up by somebody else, they'd often leave old scrap plywood, pallets and tires piled in the woods.)

            We did get the cops called on us once- the local store organized a game, and asked the son of the property owner (the son was a regular in the store) if they could use a chunk of property his grandfather owned- that was littered with junk cars, heavy brush, an old log cabin, etc. Son asked dad, dad says sure- apparently thinking it was going to be the son and a few close friends.

            We brought 35 players.

            Grandpa gets wind, calls the State Troopers. He shows up with steam boiling out his ears, and wants all of us arrested and charged with everything from trespassing to vandalism, and then possibly flogged. Organizer of the event talks to the Troopers, who realize it's a "he said, she said" situation, and convince the old guy to let us go. We had to leave immediately, of course, but they convinced him that trying to have us actually charged wouldn't go anywhere.

            That would have been about '06, and is the last time I played 'outlaw'. (Not that it convinced me not to, I simply haven't had any other opportunities since.)

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              #58
              Originally posted by Jordan View Post

              Which version?
              For me personally, I think several...




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              • Jordan

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                I can see your point. I personally really like the black Stickies with gold emblem and find the colored versions a bit garish.

                Is there a set of grips you like? Hogue, maybe?

              • Arthur
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                Word. I think Dyes DM grips are awesome btw. I've just never been a fan of these older school ones. Just kill any build for me.

                I also own a Dye DAM, love the grips, quality stuff. Hogue is a great brand too.

              #59
              You asked for unpopular opinions, so here goes. Not sorry for any ruffled feathers:
              • First Strikes hurt more than standard roundball. Up close, or far away, doesn't matter. There is a reason they always use a paint know for being "Robust, Reliable, and Great for Magfed and Woods Play" every time they do impact comparisons. I'm not saying I don't like FSR, they are super cool and a ton of fun! But can we stop it with the damn "it doesn't hurt any more than round ball" lie?
              • No one has made an STBB as robust and reliable as Tippmann 98 yet.
              • STBBs are overrated. They can be cheap, and stylish, but that's about all they have going for them unless you make them into a custom machine, which negates the whole "great for beginners" point. They murder more paint and leak more than other entry level options. I think they lead a bad experience for far too many first time marker owners.
              • And blowback Tippmanns are actually really good about not breaking paint, and can shoot surprisingly fragile paint reliably.
              • Renters have just as bad of a day getting one balled and snap shot out all day by someone with a better mask than them as they do getting overshot by some idiot with an electro. At least they can blame the marker when they get shot up. Losing all day is no fun. Even with players intermixed, it usually ends up with all the renters waiting for the next game while the experienced guys finish the game. A tricked out mech or pump gun is still intimidating when they only have rental gear. Regardless of equipment, experienced players should be kept separate from rentals.

              And now for some opinions that won't get as much backlash:
              • Every paint company has good and bad paint batches across all grades.
              • A lot of "Great Paint" is overly fragile junk pushed as top-of-the-line
              • Top Of The Line paint is incrdibly fragile, but doesn't break in your marker and shoots amazing. It's often indistinguishable from the junk until you're shooting it.
              • A lot of junk paint that is harder than it needs to be gets praised as great just because it doesn't break in player's junk or malfunctioning equipment.
              • Overly bulky and fluffy padding on jerseys and pants looked dumb, but the same players that say all the padding was bad are the same players saying the new slim stuff looks dumb.
              • Almost all the new slim stuff is really poorly made.
              • You can still make a quality product outside of America, and that includes China.
              • Made in America isn't always good quality, even if it supports the right goals of keeping money domestic. America needs to adapt to the looming Globalized Economy.
              • Marker tech has not plateued, and there has been great innovations and progress in the last 10 years. Most electros from 2010 or earlier will actually put you at a competitve disadvantage if the playing field were otherwise level. This also doesn't apply to 99% of the players who are buying the "latest and greatest" gear all the time.
              • Tournament paintball is a blast and is a legitimate sport, but I acknowledge it is a niche of a niche and is a bad vehicle from promoting and growing paintball.
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              • Cdn_Cuda

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                That’s the joy of a BT-4. Removable trigger frame, so no pesky springs and easy to deal with clamshell. Way nice to work on than either a 98 or and A5

              • Arthur
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                I wholeheartedly disagree with the suggestion that FS hurts more. It doesn’t, I’ve been shot countless times with FS. The FS round will hold their velocity better at distance, that’s about it.

              • jerryjjackson69

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                And I wholeheartedly disagree that they don't hurt more. I have also been shot countless times with FSR, frequently at close range, where their abilities to maintain velocity shouldn't be that notable, and I think they consistently hurt more. I'm not complaining, I think FSR are fun, but I have the unpopular opinion that they inherently hurt more. Agree to disagree, I think that's the point of this thread.

              #60
              Splash annos are gross.

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              • Olsson

                Olsson

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                Boooooo! Unpopular paintball opinion!!!

              • jerryjjackson69

                jerryjjackson69

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                I have a splash anno marker that I love, but I agree, every time I see a splash anno on a marker I think it's a waste.
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