A rare Rotor upgrade kit I didn't know existed

[Trbo323]

Since the rotor can feed 40bps in its stock configuration, I wonder if undervolting it or swapping for a motor with half or 1/3rd of the speed would make it sync better to modern ramping

Maybe, the problem then would be as the batteries drop down in voltage you are now under feeding since it will slow down a bit

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[Chuck E Ducky]

It’s regulated so adjusting the brass screw adjusts how fast and hard it is on paint. Lower you go the more likely you are to get a jam. So it’s a trade off. They are very efficient battery wise. So people forgot the last time they replaced the battery, and the lack of low battery indication only adds to the confusion. Why is my rotor jamming? Because it requires less energy to spin that cup empty then it does with a full pod sitting on top of it. So empty it looks fine, add the weight of a full pod it don’t have the proper power to push paint. Replace the battery’s and you’re good to go. Put lithium ion AA batteries and change them out one time a year. They last forever in the rotor. It’s all I ran when I was practicing 3x a week for Xball.

I know plenty of players who swore buy the latest hopper. I stuck with my First Gen rotor up until I had trouble finding replacement windows for it about 3 years ago. They have all gone through 5-6 different generations of the “best hopper”.

I did find replacements eventually and now it’s a back up hopper because it still works great I think I’m on speedfeed #2 with that one. Replaced it with an LTR and all the parts are interchangeable so I’m sure this will be the last hopper I purchase.

[SR_matt]

I still really want to know who felt the claimed 50+BPS and proven 40bps was not enough and needed upgrading.

Like what the hell were they shooting? Might as well be a paint light saber at that point

Let's say you can get it to 60 BPS. That's a pod every 2.5 seconds. Can you even dump the paint in that fast?

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naw man I can shoot 40bps on semi without bounce on my Spyder, only newbs can't hit at least 30...

but yeah seriously, the crazy feed rates are ridiculous. granted I think there is a solid point to have a hopper that can really outpace the marker but I see no need to go beyond what the rotor family can do. if they can keep up with the craziest for RT'ing mags theres nothing they won't help up with... granted even the halos can do it to and frankly they seem to be softer on paint, just the form factor never got refined well. I am interested to see the new halo style hoppers that it seems the pro teams are testing with the removable top shell. hopefully they have kept all of the good about the halo while making it more battery efficient and competitive in the height department to modern hoppers.

[Trbo323]

naw man I can shoot 40bps on semi without bounce on my Spyder, only newbs can't hit at least 30...

Ok, that legit made me giggle

but yeah seriously, the crazy feed rates are ridiculous. granted I think there is a solid point to have a hopper that can really outpace the marker but I see no need to go beyond what the rotor family can do. if they can keep up with the craziest for RT'ing mags theres nothing they won't help up with... granted even the halos can do it to and frankly they seem to be softer on paint, just the form factor never got refined well. I am interested to see the new halo style hoppers that it seems the pro teams are testing with the removable top shell. hopefully they have kept all of the good about the halo while making it more battery efficient and competitive in the height department to modern hoppers.

New halos? I haven't heard of these yet, pictures? Links? Or is there a thread started already that I missed?

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[Chuck E Ducky]

It cost more in batteries to keep those things running a season then it dose to buy a better hopper.

[SR_matt]

Ok, that legit made me giggle




New halos? I haven't heard of these yet, pictures? Links? Or is there a thread started already that I missed?

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I havent seen any threads about it here (but I also dont lurk here constantly. there were some on reddit like this one https://www.reddit.com/r/paintball/c...w_halo_hopper/

however I keep seeing videos of some of the big teams using them, the latest videos I saw looked like they shells were revised from what was in this linked thread. the latest ones seemed to be that the upper shell had more of a lim that hun over the lower shell (and of course the screen captures in that thread make the hopper look like a skyscraper from the parallaxing.

[Trbo323]

I havent seen any threads about it here (but I also dont lurk here constantly. there were some on reddit like this one https://www.reddit.com/r/paintball/c...w_halo_hopper/

however I keep seeing videos of some of the big teams using them, the latest videos I saw looked like they shells were revised from what was in this linked thread. the latest ones seemed to be that the upper shell had more of a lim that hun over the lower shell (and of course the screen captures in that thread make the hopper look like a skyscraper from the parallaxing.

Yeah no joke that thing looks massive in those photos.

It does say halo too on the back so I'm not expecting massive changes. Even still the too has been a go to for entry level e hopper for years. I hope they aren't going to price it out of that market just because it's new.

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[SR_matt]

Yeah no joke that thing looks massive in those photos.

It does say halo too on the back so I'm not expecting massive changes. Even still the too has been a go to for entry level e hopper for years. I hope they aren't going to price it out of that market just because it's new.

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With it being prototype I assume the parts binned as much as possible for testing.

Frankly though theres not a huge amount to improve on IMHO with the halo style hoppers. The clam shell design is a major improvement (I always bought the aftermarket shells for mine... but they still used three screws to attach), moving to a more modern motor that can run more efficiently and at lower voltages would allow smaller battery requirements, and just reshaping it enough to drop it a bit lower would make it comparable to most other hoppers out there.

I would hope that they are aiming for a $100 or less, frankly that should be very doable with the halo too going for 60s-70s now new. Even 120 with he right features and upgrades could be a reasonable price at least to me.

[Trbo323]

With it being prototype I assume the parts binned as much as possible for testing.

Frankly though theres not a huge amount to improve on IMHO with the halo style hoppers. The clam shell design is a major improvement (I always bought the aftermarket shells for mine... but they still used three screws to attach), moving to a more modern motor that can run more efficiently and at lower voltages would allow smaller battery requirements, and just reshaping it enough to drop it a bit lower would make it comparable to most other hoppers out there.

I would hope that they are aiming for a $100 or less, frankly that should be very doable with the halo too going for 60s-70s now new. Even 120 with he right features and upgrades could be a reasonable price at least to me.

Idk on the price. Every once in a while the spire ir goes on sale at $99. You would have to make quite a convincing argument for me to buy a modern halo over the ir.



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[tyronejk]

I don't think I'd get anything other than an OG/LTR rotor used at $60-80. Shells are indestructible, circuit boards are about as simple as they can get, specific electronic components are all off-the-shelf parts, etc.

[SR_matt]

Idk on the price. Every once in a while the spire ir goes on sale at $99. You would have to make quite a convincing argument for me to buy a modern halo over the ir.



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Personally I like the halo over most of the other modern hoppers int terms of function. The LTR is great but I feel like the halo is gentler on paint (even with the LTR torque turned down) simply because its just the drive cone pushing not eh paint and not the complex meshing system of the LTR. granted I run a mag with a lot of RT, if I was running. modern electro I probably would be fine with any of the options out now, but that constant pressure force feed of the Halo matters in my application (the LTR seems to keep up fine too but I wouldn't want to try the pulsing force feed hoppers on that mag).

[$L!mBo]

anybody gunna try this thing out? im kinda scared

[iamthelazerviking]

LOL