New Vetgun III- anyone know how it works?

[The Inflicted]

So the first-gen Vetguns, as should be pretty obvious, are based on an upscaled GoG eNMEy.

The new ones have a very different design.
Does anyone have any idea how the "Vetgun III" works? Double-action? Umarex-style unregulated blow-forward?

[Ecapnation]

That's a new one no idea....

[The Inflicted]

Found the manual but it's not much help.

https://library.leedstone.com/forms/SMA-038-20-D-NewVG3-OperationManual-V1.0_web.pdf

It does refer to the thing as "self-cocking" which would suggest a Rapide-type double action.

[Hobbes]

Maybe they wouldn't need to be at that distance if they were blasting them at 400 FPS. Seems like there should be an easier way, but this is more fun.

And now a double trigger in case those fuckers try and run.

[XEMON]

The double trigger might more be to save your finger
We used to do the same for gun with heavy trigger pull

[The Inflicted]

That trigger is another reason I'm leaning towards double-action.

[XEMON]

It does look like a beefed up GZ 😋

[Toestr]

Also not sure how these work, but I'd imagine the design was changed because GOG discontinued the eNEMy.

[SignOfZeta]

Did the previous design actually exist? It seems odd that they’d use such an expensive design at first and then switch to a Rapide looking POS. The MkI also is just really oddly photoshopped in the pictures. It’s really nice looking but also not real looking.

What caliber are these pellets?

[Ecapnation]

Yes, I've seen them around

[Trbo323]

I really want to see the advertising for the e frame version.

"For immunization of a whole hurd in seconds"

Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

[Jonnydread]

I can't stop staring at the first picture barrel, it's massive

[Trbo323]

Is that even 68 caliber? Looks larger

Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

[The Inflicted]

Is that even 68 caliber? Looks larger

They are.
Should be 1.00 to 1.05 caliber.

https://www.sensorsone.com/sphere-volume-to-diameter-calculator/

[The Great Equalizer]

I can't comment on the legality, but it seems like it would be cheaper to make .68 VetCaps and just shoot the cows a few times to equal the same volume of pesticide

[The Inflicted]

Cheaper for the end user, possibly, but from Vetcaps perspective it's more to their advantage if people have to buy their proprietary gun to use their proprietary medicine; if you want to use their system you've got to buy their stuff. From a liability standpoint, they also don't have to worry about people shooting their capsules out of guns they didn't engineer, or vice-versa.

[The Great Equalizer]

I hadn't thought of it the other way around. I probably wouldn't appreciate having a ball break on my mask and getting a mouth full of cattle tick medicine because some absent minded farmer mixed up his paintballs and VetCaps.

[Jonnydread]

hmmmm

[Carp]

Don't do it, Paige!

[DocsMachine]

I seem to recall the Vetcap rounds are something like 26mm- as Inflict notes, nominally an inch.

You can get "inert" balls, both for testing/practice, and to get the animals used to both the noise and the impact. The inert ones are, unfortunately, 'blank'- the fill and shell are clear, so as to not make a mess.

The eNmy version was in fact sold for a number of years- there was a mention of it before the Big Crash, and there's a couple on eBay right now if anyone would care to pick one up for gits and shiggles. No idea why they switched, though I suspect Toes is right- when the eNmy was discontinued, they lost access to those parts, and had to redesign. (I could see the original design being difficult for a farmer to clean and service, too, and it might be that the new one is more 'user friendly' in that respect.)

So... who wants to go in on a custom-encapsulated run of Mega-Marballizer? A ball four times the weight at 295 FPS? You could start outranging even the Flatline users.

Doc.

[Jimmydee]

It’s got a rail on the bottom to mount a red dot site of flashlight, tactical and practical

[SignOfZeta]

Why the fudge did anyone waste time inventing first strike when this existed?

What I mean is…the “good” thing about First Strike is that it created this tiered system where the people who have the most accurate and long range guns also have the worst ROF, capacity, price, etc.

To do the same thing, to invent a two tiered system, instead of a straighter firing teeny paintball you could also make a massively huge, less accurate system that has worse range (unless you want to kill someone).

Instead of making a next gen space age paintball use an agricultural one that already exists.

Not better, WORSE!

What could have been…

[DocsMachine]

Why the fudge did anyone waste time inventing first strike when this existed?

-Because it didn't exist when FS first came out. The people that developed this vet thing actually contacted me as a sort of informal consultant... probably about 12-14 years ago? I gave them a lot of ideas and pointed them towards other shops that had better manufacturing capacity than I did, and probably two or three years later, saw that grey gun appear on the market.

It's a larger caliber since they need a certain dose of the insecticide to treat the animal- the volume of a regular paintball isn't enough. And no field, pretty much anywhere, would allow one of these on the field, even if you had an actual paintball that fit it.

Keeping in mind that some countries- England specifically, as I recall- limit the power of an "air gun" to a certain amount of impact energy. A Vetgun-sized ball is about four times the weight, meaning you'd need a quarter the velocity to stay legal. To say nothing of goggle lenses being rated for normal paintballs, not ones four times heavier.

Doc.