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    #31
    Special or limited editions on headbands or mask. I personally never got into it. But I don't see how anyone would drop $100-200 on a headband. Or even $300 for half a mask.

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    • Socalpumpballer
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      Seems like it’s a symptom of the dead aftermarket. If you can’t customize your space gun beyond anodizing and engraving then the only thing to really stand out is fashion. That being said you only a few mask and headbands are actually rare enough to justify these prices. Mainly olive/clear flex 7 bottoms and maybe original snake stripe venomwear headbands

    • TF_Aloha
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      But how will people know how agggggg you are if you don't buy NFT's to wear on your head?

    • morkrom
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      Some youth offered 40 bucks for the strap on my jt mask some time back huh..

    #32
    Putting spikes on your mask or on your marker.
    Just asking for an accident if you ask me.

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      #33
      I'm expanding to fields here, but one of the things that had me abandon the game was how all the fields (local to anywhere I lived in the past 10 years) switched from elimination games to timed games with damn near every patron on site and unlimited respawns. I get the profit motive is paint sales but it just became 20-30 minutes straight of whack-a-mole. Each one followed by 45 minute breaks to drive people to buy paint and food before the next one. One field even ruled that we couldn't cross the halfway line, so there was zero reward to eliminating people (cuz they'd be back in 30 seconds) and zero reward to tactics (cuz there was nowhere to go).
      I remember taking turns to get onto smaller fields, the regulars getting to ref their own games, a variety of playstyles and game formats offered. So many of these places just aren't fun anymore.

      The last scenario game I went to was overcrowded and also eliminated respawn time windows. Again, such little incentive to care about tactics survivability when you can pop back in with little inconvenience. Shooting a guy only for him to run back 50 feet to respawn immediately invalidates all of the effort to sneak through enemy territory.

      Not a design issue but the other thing that discouraged me was crappy paint. My phreak'd phantom and my stock PGP used to shoot straight laser beams. Last I played I had better luck aiming to miss.

      Conversely, I'm loving the idea of round variety in scenario games. First strike was already adding some dimension. Allowing .50cal as a tradeoff option (like pistols) would make equipping for a game more interesting.

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      • Chuck E Ducky

        Chuck E Ducky

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        Where are you located your fields sound terribly run. Are you centered around a Tourist Area?

      • Myrkul

        Myrkul

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        That sounds absolutely miserable to play.

      • ChoSanJuan
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        Yeah, that's a no for me dawg... Respawn rec/walkon days? That's greed hidden in plain sight! That stuff only belongs in big games/scenario games. yuk

      #34
      Who decided electros didn't need a safety? I don't think I've gone a day yet without a walk on accidentally shooting his foot or buddy during the safety briefing. Trigger discipline is a lost art apparently...
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        #35
        Originally posted by jpdgas View Post
        Who decided electros didn't need a safety?
        Powering off is not a safety?

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        • Ecapnation

          Ecapnation

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          I mean you're not wrong!

        • jpdgas

          jpdgas

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          The 2.3 seconds it takes to hold down the power button for on/off is far to long. Plus boot up time? Forgeddaboutit!

        • Magmoormaster
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          Especially with Luxes

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        #36
        Safety on pumps 🙄
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        • Chuck E Ducky

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          If it’s all floppy you are likely missing the tiny stainless ball that sits in front of the spring. Adjusting that grub screw puts tension on a small spring with a ball barring at the end. If you use it a lot it can losses up over time. Just put a lil more tension on that spring it will tighten it up. If you take the spring and barring out you can lock it in “bang” by threading that grub screw all the way in. Or take it right out but phantomonline has the spring and lil ball if you need they are easy to lose. I order extra just to have on hand in my Phantom parts kit.

        • XEMON

          XEMON

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          Thanks for the info, I need to do that on my phantom, it seam to always lock itself when I run up a bunker 😅

        • JeeperCreeper

          JeeperCreeper

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          I prefer to remove them where possible. I always shoot the chambered round out before putting a barrel bag on or holstering to walk off anyway.

        #37
        Originally posted by Sdawg View Post

        Powering off is not a safety?
        My thoughts as well. Mine are always turned off coming off the field

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          #38
          Whoever decided to put the eyes at the bottom of the breech in the DAM, shame on you. The DAM's lights always being on, and it's speedball auto-off... a lot of odd decisions in that design showed they didn't really get their market. I'm not even a woodsballer and I get it.

          Markers with stocks that block the mask, built in (dfender) or otherwise.

          Double triggers made sense in the days of 25bps NPPL semi "I'm not bouncing ref honest I really can shoot 30+", but should probably be retired.

          Baggy pants and XXXL jerseys on size S people. It really doesn't help that much.

          I've always been more frustrated by the game design. 5v5 elimination is boring, (somehow) less watchable than alternatives, and one dimensional. Insisting it should be the main pro league format is a low IQ move.

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            #39
            15* VA's

            86* and 90* frames

            9.6v rechargeable batteries

            Small, and non spherical paintballs

            Unoriginal marker designs for the past decade or more
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            • Jonnydread

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              Also all 86° frames are not created equal. I'm not huge on most of them, but the CCM Phantom 86 is fantastically comfortable, though it's more of a CZ style than true vertical.

            • russc

              russc

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              Half of the time when people say "86 degree frame" they're just using paintball shorthand for "it uses CZ grips"

            • $L!mBo

              $L!mBo

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              just nabbed a 15° vasa for my loaner sniper, its sweet. can run it angled away from or angled toward with a standard body/frame. the added length gets my air fitting away from the triggerguard so i can unscrew my reg without needing to remove the fitting. cant do that with the stock wgp vasa.
              plus the design is cleaner and i LIKE the subtle angle!

            #40
            Ramping. One pull, one fire, that's all.

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            • vijil
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              Never existed outside of mech, and even then it's iffy.

            #41
            Originally posted by Number six View Post
            Ramping. One pull, one fire, that's all.
            unfortunately, this happened because cheating was becoming an issue. They decided to allow the cheating, but regulate it.

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              #42
              Spelling words without vowels like they’re acronyms.

              CMD, LZR, CRBN, PWR…

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              • $L!mBo

                $L!mBo

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                yes but you are overlooking the hilarious shenanigans involved in making up the full names those words stand for:

                Cranial Mass Deficiency
                Little Zany Rod
                Cowards Really Big Noggin
                Poop Wand Rod

              • The Great Equalizer
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                "Cowards Really Big Noggin" makes a lot of sense considering their "More Coverage" masks.

              • devilzcall
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                Always thought the HK mask was named "Hustle"

              #43
              Pant sizes. Its hard to find pants that I like and would actually fit tall skinny people.

              Masks generally dont work with glasses. For the most part, they just need slits on the foam for the arms.
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              • scottieb

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                Pants for tall skinny people are impossible to find it. I am almost 7 feet tall and there are zero pants out there that fit well.

              • The Great Equalizer
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                I can't believe accommodating glasses in a paintball mask is still a problem 40 years after the game started. I wear contacts exclusively while skiing and paint-balling and in both cases its because no one thought to make a mask for the 67.3% of the population that wears eye glasses

              #44
              the ski masks these kids are wearing need to be burned
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                #45
                Older features I never warmed to:

                -back bottles, vertical ASAs, etc. Why, oh why, did it take paintgun manufacturers so long to figure out the proper place for the tank was at the bottom of the grip?? Tippmann figured it out pretty quick with the SL-68/Pro-series, why did so many gunmakers not jump on board? A big reason I bought a Pro-Lite back in the day was I didn't have to add the trouble and expense of a bottomline run to make the gun handle properly.

                -Powerfeeds. Like, WTF even was the point? I get trying to prevent paint bouncing up the neck, and maybe in a tuned-up Automag that could be a problem...but in a blowback?? Yeah, not an issue. I do not and will never understand why every paintgun manufacturer in the mid-90s equipped their guns with Powerfeeds, except perhaps as a marketing gimmick. I hate them for two reasons; one, the "ability" to turn the paint feed on and off is one more thing to forget to do before a match and two, HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO AIM?? The damn feedneck prevents looking down the barrel whether straight over, tipped left or tipped right. I've never been able to hit anything with a powerfeed-equipped gun, no matter how straight it throws paint.

                Newer features I question:

                -Lever-lock "quick release" clamping feednecks. I have one on my Nova N-1 and I side-eyed it the moment I saw it. To my eyes it really looked like something that could accidentally come loose during a game, and a quick scan of YouTube's collection of "paintball fails" proved me right. I've seen a bunch of vids of speedballers losing their hoppers during the sprint off the break - and sure enough, every time I go back and watch I can see how their gun's lever-lock feedneck is flapping in the breeze, probably because it caught on some part of their kit and the player didn't notice.

                IMO, give me the old-school Allen-bolt driven clamping neck on my Pro-Lite. Sure it chows up the neck of your hopper a tad, but you crank that bolt down tight and the only way the hopper's coming loose without undoing that bolt is with a hacksaw. Which is how I want it. I ended up resorting to Ye Olde Baller's solution on my Nova - electrical tape. A quick wrap of the black stuff around my feedneck lever before the day starts buys me peace of mind.

                -Bluetooth connected/smartphone connected guns/guns with apps for your phone etc. Come on, this is a cash-grab pure and simple. The gun companies have run out of legitimate upgrades to justify charging us $1000+ for a gun and now they've just gotten silly. Oh and I don't need my gun to talk to me, thanks.

                A new feature I love:

                -On/Off ASAs. Finally, a convenience feature that's actually convenient. I love my Nova's On/Off...it makes dealing with the (rare) barrel breaks easy, and at the end of the day when I'm taking apart my gear (tired, ready to be done, not really thinking clear etc.) being able to just shut off the gas and unscrew the tank without having to juggle dry-cycling my gun is really, really nice. It was one of those features that I didn't think I'd love but I do.

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                • flyweightnate

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                  I will disagree only with the Bluetooth comment.

                  My Torque has a Sci-Fi, and it's great to change modes on the fly. Like jumping from uncapped semi at the target range to 6bps semi for rec to PSP ramp (or whatever the current thing is) if the field team is getting frisky.

                • XEMON

                  XEMON

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                  I much prefer back bottle and vertical tanks than the bottom line on the bottom of the grip ... Much more compact setups on the vasa tank and the tank resting on your arm feels so natural
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