Nova Phantom Duckslide kits

[XEMON]

thanks for the video 👍

[superman]

It certainly feels like they tricked guys into Beta testing this…
Hopefully, they do what they say and make it right both for those buyers and future versions.

I don't think that was their intention, but this certainly rings a similar bell to the cockers. Though a lot of those issues could be fixed during assembly. This not so much.

[XEMON]

that sounds like BS excuses to justify not wanting to do teh work ...

[Riot]

Shortened the quote to remove a bunch of autococker specific detail, but i feel like this applies to this very specific situation.
Maybe they should have had someone that actually uses a phantom assemble and test it..... before going into full production.

There are multiples of us in the state.....Myself, grendel, Nish, Plus multiples that are local to me.

It certainly feels like they tricked guys into Beta testing this…
Hopefully, they do what they say and make it right both for those buyers and future versions.

[superman]

I would say it is more frustration than it is hate.
Multiple people have offered advice, designs, critiques and solutions for some of the things that nova has designed and released. Many of those things were not implemented, but were clearly pointed out early in production. I know because i regularly talk to some of those people that offered advice. They want people to enjoy and shoot autocockers, not see them as a pain to work on because of changes that could have and or should have been made pre-production with a simple conversation.

Shortened the quote to remove a bunch of autococker specific detail, but i feel like this applies to this very specific situation.
Maybe they should have had someone that actually uses a phantom assemble and test it..... before going into full production.

There are multiples of us in the state.....Myself, grendel, Nish, Plus multiples that are local to me.

[iamthelazerviking]

[iamthelazerviking]

So they're already working on a v2, and if you bought the v1 you can just get it swapped for the V2.

[Riot]

Riot
pump rod, internals, feedtube, frame, ect all assembled
any contact point that could mitigate the rattle, ive taken into account

😬😬😬

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZcWtXhii...tKRm3GISOn9qHE

Ouch.

[$L!mBo]

Riot
pump rod, internals, feedtube, frame, ect all assembled
any contact point that could mitigate the rattle, ive taken into account

😬😬😬

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZcWtXhii9o?si=VAtKRm3GISOn9qHE

[Lt. head-shot]

@$limbo
Yeah that’s what I mean. No asp cut means no larger barrels, minus maybe the deadlywind. As for the hopper… I’d more care about the modern EV feeds, but if that is the same size as the hopper then so be it. Tolerances to the trigger frame could keep slip in line, technically.

[Riot]

This is a bummer. I’ll be waiting for the video, but am prepared for disappointment. Thanks for doing the leg work for the rest of us, $L!mBo

[$L!mBo]

so, there is a single goober on FB that is crying about not being able to use his with a hopper.
now they are telling him the new run will be cut for that.
im trying to convince them that 99% of folks do not want that.
lets see how it goes...

Riot, not great news.

Nova: "All nova slides are built to looser tolerances to smooth out the pump stroke and accommodate any variance in the size of the parts used underneath."

Me: No, all the bodies/valves/frames/barrels anybody will be using with these will be extremely close in size.
The original Duckslide was a great success partly due to its tight tolerances and the consistency of one phantom to the next.

so, I just put mine together with internals and everything and the play at the barrel is almost just as bad. and theres wobble down the whole length.
to them, excessive scratching and rattling around is a feature, not a flaw.

[$L!mBo]

@Lt. head-shot
there is an internal step and chamfer to fit the cci bodies but not the asp. i posted pics above

unless you mean "it doesnt make sense to bore the slides out for barrels that no one is going to be using on these."
in which case i totally agree

[Riot]

Reading everything here, and jokes aside (just this once), I think seeing how they handle the feedback and any issues that the bodies(?) may have is how ill make a determination.

Based on my previously positive experiences and their willingness to reply, I don’t want to write them off like they Metadyne’d us.

Looking forward to seeing some completed projects with these.

[$L!mBo]

@Riot
heres a video just showing how much play there is without a body inside, ill put it together proper and send another.
will most likely not be as bad with a standard thickness grip frame to keep things aligned

https://youtube.com/shorts/7loQsdVbnds?si=uD5X_XfjsWUVqOzV