Nova Phantom Duckslide kits

[latches109]

Nova: "All nova slides are built to looser tolerances to smooth out the pump stroke and accommodate any variance in the size of the parts used underneath."

lol what a joke - good way to hide incompetence. I thought these guys would learn a lesson after the nova valve. Appears they do not care much about quality, as their track record shows. I dove my NX1 off the lot and lost $100 in value instantly

[latches109]

seriously? show me the PO

[$L!mBo]

chatter wasnt bad at all when i slotted 4 kits a couple years ago. but you could stick a dowel in there while you cut.

[superman]

When you do, make sure you put something between the back the back of the slide to spread them apart. It gets sketchy if you don't. just a heads up.

[$L!mBo]

diy is always the best option with projects like this.
and yea, no plans to fix the overbore.
"it would be too expensive"

[superman]

I was more referring to trying to track down the v1 owners to send the v2’s.

[Magageddon]

Another thing I noticed on mine was the lack of finish work inside the slide where the barrel goes. The holes on the top of the site rail and the threaded holes holding the bottom pump portion of the slide together all have small burrs protruding into the slide ID. So if someone gets their slide and tries to fit a larger diameter barrel inside, be careful, it'll scratch the hell out of your barrel without sanding those burrs off first.

I'm fine with mill marks on parts, but burrs on a marketed drop in ready part isn't cool.

My confidence in them fixing the issues is low, I'm gonna try doing fixing the feed tube fitment issues myself on my mill and gonna try making a slip fit delrin sleeve for the slide to not be a chattery nightmare

The only plus side is the nova guys are receptive to the problems and I did reach out about my off center brass insert and they said they'd be sending me a replacement asap.

If I'm not mistaken the V2 will pretty much be the same thing as the V1, but with a wider cut out to accept cci feed tubes, supposedly no plans to make the ID hole smaller to eliminate the need of getting a custom spacer to take out the excessive pump slop on the kit.

[Magageddon]

superman, If I'm not mistaken they have no plans on changing the barrel ID to fit a phantom barrel. I think V2 is still gonna be the same, but with a larger cut out for all stock phantom feeds.

[superman]

wonder how that is going to work out when they send out the v2's.....

[Chuck E Ducky]

oh, I like the shocktec trigger shoe on that.

[$L!mBo]

just sold this. Made the buyer aware of all the issues.
Hes having me send it straight to BMC for a delrin barrel bushing.
will report back how it goes!

[Chuck E Ducky]

It would be fairly easy to fix the issues at hand on the V1. A Delrin bushing would do wonders for the slop. Or clearance the slide at the back to fit an ASP cocker body and use a Doc Bull Cocker freak barrel. I’m planning on using a different feed anyway my round one would fit that slide easily as is it’s much more low profile then the CCI one.

Hopefully, they can get it squared away and the spec right. I will buy one if they can get it right.

[flyweightnate]

Holy crap guys these were milled in America

I was going easy on them bc I thought they got shafted by crappy overseas machining

As much as it sucks, I think domestic quality is just as varied as the cheapest import. It's all about the person, the equipment, and the communication. And I've met some American manufacturers who tend to communicate through a glass bottle more often than not. One foundry I used, the owner was unreachable after lunch, or unintelligible if I reached him.

I'm happy to hear that Nova produced in the US. Both because I want to encourage US manufacturing, and because they'll likely have more recourse to fix issues easily. Good shops certainly cost a lot more here, though.

If anyone cares, my advice is always to have 2-3 domestic suppliers with overlapping but distinct capabilities, and a foreign broker. Get a prototype guy who loves the challenge but isn't tooled for volume, a production guy, and a backup for when one of the others is slammed. Then get a foreign shop for the high-touch, low impact parts that take forever but nobody notices, like a Spyder VASA with two big threads, machining on four sides, and no moving parts. Sometimes the cheap labor on the dumb stuff makes a fair wage on the important stuff viable, without the whole project going over budget.

Low volume production is tricky in that way. You really need to choose your battle, because you don't have time or volume to optimize and automate everything. At very least, though, the design intent has to be there. Words are cheap.

[Jsc5150]

Horses mouth says made in south carolina

[Chuck E Ducky]

I don’t think they were. I thought they were scanned and sent over seas to get manufactured.