Nova Phantom Duckslide kits

[$L!mBo]

just sold this. Made the buyer aware of all the issues.
Hes having me send it straight to BMC for a delrin barrel bushing.
will report back how it goes!

[superman]

I was more referring to trying to track down the v1 owners to send the v2’s.

[Riot]

Problems aside…. Looks pretty dope.

[XEMON]

Probably gonna want the V1 back, mill it and sell it back ...

[Magageddon]

Another thing I noticed on mine was the lack of finish work inside the slide where the barrel goes. The holes on the top of the site rail and the threaded holes holding the bottom pump portion of the slide together all have small burrs protruding into the slide ID. So if someone gets their slide and tries to fit a larger diameter barrel inside, be careful, it'll scratch the hell out of your barrel without sanding those burrs off first.

I'm fine with mill marks on parts, but burrs on a marketed drop in ready part isn't cool.

My confidence in them fixing the issues is low, I'm gonna try doing fixing the feed tube fitment issues myself on my mill and gonna try making a slip fit delrin sleeve for the slide to not be a chattery nightmare

The only plus side is the nova guys are receptive to the problems and I did reach out about my off center brass insert and they said they'd be sending me a replacement asap.

If I'm not mistaken the V2 will pretty much be the same thing as the V1, but with a wider cut out to accept cci feed tubes, supposedly no plans to make the ID hole smaller to eliminate the need of getting a custom spacer to take out the excessive pump slop on the kit.

[$L!mBo]

diy is always the best option with projects like this.
and yea, no plans to fix the overbore.
"it would be too expensive"

[superman]

When you do, make sure you put something between the back the back of the slide to spread them apart. It gets sketchy if you don't. just a heads up.

[$L!mBo]

chatter wasnt bad at all when i slotted 4 kits a couple years ago. but you could stick a dowel in there while you cut.

[latches109]

Nova: "All nova slides are built to looser tolerances to smooth out the pump stroke and accommodate any variance in the size of the parts used underneath."

lol what a joke - good way to hide incompetence. I thought these guys would learn a lesson after the nova valve. Appears they do not care much about quality, as their track record shows. I dove my NX1 off the lot and lost $100 in value instantly

[$L!mBo]

definitely a "Damage Control/trying to cover our butts" lame excuse

[JonM]

I wonder if the loose tolerances are more of a side effect of the 3D scanning than a deliberate design decision.

[Murph]

Mine showed up. There are some very rough cuts, large burrs and surface defects. I may have to find an airsmith to clean it up before anodizing. Wasn’t expecting master craftsmanship but this is still not something I am happy with.

[Chuck E Ducky]

I feel like it can be saved but it’s not a drop in peace that’s for sure. It needs more work to be right. It’s definitely ruff from an anodizing standpoint. I plan on cutting one up anyway to make it my own. Can you measure the ID of the barrel opening? I wonder if a Doc Bull Cocker barrel will fill the hole if you make room for a round head body.

[Murph]

I can go one better. I own one of those bull barrels. The tip fits in beautifully, but it needs a polish for sure. Feels a little gritty coming out.

[Chuck E Ducky]

Smaller is easy tho especially since can spin it in a lathe.

[Chuck E Ducky]

I wonder if you can just machine out the back side to fit round heads and make a Delrin sleeve that’s captured behind the slide itself. You could make different sizes for different barrels. Spin them up on a Lathe easily. If it rode on Delrin it would be much smoother and you could match the barrel to your build.

[Murph]

The bore pictures chuck e ducky asked for

[Chuck E Ducky]

Ok so they are boring the barrel hole the same diameter as the slide? So a Bull barrel should take up most of the slop I bet if you clearance the slide for a round head. I think a Doc Bull barrel is very similar OD as a valve body.

[Super Nova]

Maybe someone can run a batch of freaked bull barrels for these??

[Chuck E Ducky]

I’m thinking Docs barrels will work if the bore of the slide is honed out a lil. But the issue is they are cocker threaded.
So you would need to clearance the slide so you could fit the round head ASP body into the slide. It currently won’t fit because round heads don’t taper at the threads due to the OD of cocker threaded barrels. Should be a simple fix. Docs makes his barrels in both xL and standard freak. I’m sure we could have the tips made to any length we want if we ask. His longer ones he sells now could be cut down super easy. They are unported too so you might get a lil more efficiency out of them for 12g play. Should Give you a cool sound sig out of it and look good with a fat barrel poking through. It would take the slop out of the slide to since it rides on the barrel.