Price check help please!

[GDawgFunk]

Hi All,
Hoping someone can give me some price advice? Was a member here about a decade ago before the site went down and was brought back up. Great community! Also please let me know if this post should be moved etc.

Anywho... I am looking to clear out some items from my storage locker and was wondering if any Tagline/ATS aficionados could let me know what they think the items in the pic are worth? I'm located in Ontario Canada, so our 2nd hand market is not quite as large as the one down south :-)
This a Tagline TS1, it was sold to me originally as an ATS AT-85 but the case clearly has Tagline printed on the top.
Comes with all here, three front loaders, velocity adjuster, case, extra unisizer, guide plate and rear sight. Mag has a broken guide piece that holds the chain down on the inside, just broke off the post and I never got around to either using a pin vise or epoxy to fix it, but an easy fix for someone who likes to tinker.
I have not fired it in around 8 years, last time i did it worked great.

Thanks in advance!

[XEMON]

I think I'm one of the last ATS "aficionado" around 😅

A few things to note, the mag being busted is not good, any repairs you will likely not hold up much and/or it will break elsewhere. The mags are the weak point on those guns.
Do you have a picture of the damages?

For the TS-1 vs AT-85, some have been converted, and some AT-85 were sold in TS-1 case. Can you take a picture of the inside of the ASA and a picture of the inside to confirm the version?
TS-1 will not reach velocity on HPA and cannot take any liquid CO2, so proper measure need to be taken (remote line + expansion).

The final point is wether it leak out of the ram ... Those orings are proprietary and I have not find any acceptable alternative yet ...

The market on those is extremely small and the few that sold in the last few years haven't brought much (most sat un-sold for a long time before being taken down), but exact number will depend on the points I brought above.
I think most of the interest would be to someone looking for parts ...

[GDawgFunk]

Thanks Xemon, This is exactly the type of info I was hoping to get from the community. When I did use it it was with HPA and was getting good velocity so likely is actually an ATS AT-85 but sold in a TS1 case.
There were no leaks last time I used it but that was 8 years ago, damn shame they used proprietary oring sizes.
I'll snap a couple more pics when I get the chance. Appreciate your time!
Also just realized how terrible my title was... can't edit it!

[XEMON]

Happy to help 👍

[Brokeass_baller]

It's been a great few years for ATS fans. They're all coming out of the woodwork these days.

[XEMON]

"fan" no "s" 🤣

[Brokeass_baller]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought there were two of you out there. Lol

[BigRed]

freedom had a few of these that I recall...maybe he can give some info too. I always liked these, just knew it would sit and not get used by me.

[freedom]

freedom had a few of these that I recall...maybe he can give some info too. I always liked these, just knew it would sit and not get used by me.

sorry, i had at least one but it was quickly flipped. there are other members way more knowledgeable than i am; no clue on value...

[Jordan]

I'm also in Ontario, and would be interested pending final price, if you decide to sell...

[Meleager7]

I'm also in Ontario, not really interested in ATS guns but your post makes we wonder.......what else is hiding in that storage unit!!!???

[GDawgFunk]

Ha! probably sounded a little more mysterious than i'd intended, of the stuff I'll trim down probably just some tacti-cool accessories, an armagillo, ram combat .43cal, couple of T8.1s, I'll likely post some stuff over then next week or so.

[Toestr]

You've got all of Ontario coming out of the woodwork (& brasswork).

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[Jordan]

You've got all of Ontario coming out of the woodwork (& brasswork).

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Not worth the risk to try to get an AT over the border, but if it's still in Canada? Definitely.

[GDawgFunk]

I had wondered about this myself, with the latest version of Bill C-21 making its way through the gov't branches I'll be very curious how this affects the mag-fed community in Canada. I had already seen some anecdotal reports of customs problems with markers looking even close to realistic.

[Meleager7]

I think I'm one of the last ATS "aficionado" around 😅

A few things to note, the mag being busted is not good, any repairs you will likely not hold up much and/or it will break elsewhere. The mags are the weak point on those guns.
Do you have a picture of the damages?

For the TS-1 vs AT-85, some have been converted, and some AT-85 were sold in TS-1 case. Can you take a picture of the inside of the ASA and a picture of the inside to confirm the version?
TS-1 will not reach velocity on HPA and cannot take any liquid CO2, so proper measure need to be taken (remote line + expansion).

The final point is wether it leak out of the ram ... Those orings are proprietary and I have not find any acceptable alternative yet ...

The market on those is extremely small and the few that sold in the last few years haven't brought much (most sat un-sold for a long time before being taken down), but exact number will depend on the points I brought above.
I think most of the interest would be to someone looking for parts ...

Has anyone attempted to 3d print replacement mags?

[XEMON]

There are 3D printed mag, i have 1, but they have issues ...
I have never been able to get y hand on a TPX adapter, so i started to work on a Dmag adapter, its 90% done ... It works and fit, but i need to tweak a few things to be complete.
Here is the first prototype: https://www.mcarterbrown.com/filedat...3&d=1679511960

[GDawgFunk]

Wow that magwell adapter will be amazing when done, Would the front loader be more for show/cosmetic when in use?

[XEMON]

Yes, teh front loader is for show at this point.

[XEMON]

This is either a TS-1 or AT-85 for CO2.
It may have been converted, but you will need to open it and take picture of the inside to confirm whether its a CO2 version or HPA convert.

Keep in mind, the TS-1 and AT-85 CO2 are the exact same guns ... they jut came out with the AT-85 name when they made the different variants.

[danw30]

I had mine converted by the original company in 2010 or so (may have been earlier) . If there is a fine brass mesh in the air inlet at the tank threads, then it has been converted to HPA. I was told then, if it was converted, it can run either C02 or HPA I will see if i can find the info

[XEMON]

The mesh was for CO2, so the mesh means either it's original CO2 or was converted to HPA.
Tell the difference you need to look at the ram inside, I have pictures somewhere of both sides by side ...).
The converted suffer of low recharge rate (due to the filter and tiny transfer port). The CO2 will not shoot to velocity and may not re-cock properly on HPA. And never put liquid CO2 in there ... gas only!

[Meleager7]

Just saw the open mag pic, and I think paintball in general needs more chain driven everything!

[XEMON]

agreed, and as far as i know, its the only one ...

[Meleager7]

the failed Tippmann Raider integrated rear loader had something of a chain actuator, but wasn't it more like a string of beads?

[Meleager7]

Hey, if you’re still playing ,there is an mcb Ont meetup at
Combat Pursuit on the 15th....check out the Local Games , Canada thread,cheers
M7

[chplnstone]

just posting to agree with previous posts, the straight asa (ts1/at85 typicallybeing angled) & number scream hpa. nice gen 1 mag, unfortunate about the retainer, rare to find a shell so pristine (I have a bucket of spare mags in various stages of crackling). I've been trying to sell down to just 4 runners for a couple years now, very limited market, I think I've only sold one in the past year. hard to put a value on without knowing if it holds air & cycles, I'd oil it & air it up