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    Shrek Labs On-going Empire Trracer build

    An on-going saga of my impulsive, ADHD med fueled passion project. Let me start by saying that I am a poorly-skilled, ham-fisted, but motivated modifier of parts. Most of my work is done impulsively, at odd hours, and with a joint in my mouth. Never one to measure twice, thus I suffer from the consequences of cutting once.

    This was my starting point:




    I have had this Empire Trracer since I bought it new in the early 2010s. I have always liked them. The AC threads and built in detent were the modern changes I wanted to make to basically every Nelson I've ever owned. I have had a few other Trracers over the years, but I could never get used to the rail and right feed setup on them.

    I solved the problem on this one when a machinist at my previous place of work took pity on me and milled the body to take a phantom feed. I drilled and tapped it for a reverse feed, bought one of the Apoc@lypse Paintball springfeeds(this one accepting the empire spring tube) and I played with it a fair amount in this setup.

    For a long time though, I have hated the frame and wanted to create something better.

    I received an Ender 3 for Christmas in 2019, and it saw a decent amount of use through early 2020 as a time filler. I couldn't wrap my head around the design software, though, and I mostly stuck to printing existing designs. Then I moved in with my parents as everything collapsed and it sat in their basement until a couple months ago.

    Fast forward to recently:

    I decided to dive into learning Fusion 360, and this project actually became a fantastic way to do that.

    I have had one of the flyweightnate? Nelson-milled BL Millenium frames kicking around. I've bounced around using it for a pneumag(someone do this, please), putting it on my Sheridan, but settled on fixing the Trracer trigger frame problem. (The problem is it sucks)

    It started with a trigger design:



    And quickly I realized the geometry was difficult to capture. I used 2 bearings, but quickly switched to one as space was tight in the frame and there was no noticeable difference in trigger pull. I wanted to use one of the existing holes in the frame, so I played around with the rotation point a fair amount. Still, it was dragged badly on the sear and not activating consistently.

    I added a spacer plate, and there were many revisions to both...



    But eventually it all came together. I don't have a photo of the final trigger, as there are still some final touches to make, and I was half-way through typing this out when I realized I never took a photo of it.



    I also had to drill a new rear-frame hole, but that's about it in terms of frame mods.

    That brings us to today. with no air, I was able to trip the sear with a trigger pull, so it was time to test:



    I still have some cleaning up to do on these parts. I need to work out where the trigger is snagging inside the frame, and I want the plate to extend just far enough to hold the detent in place. They are all printed in PLA, and once I am happy with the design, I plan to get these printed professionally in a carbon-fiber nylon or ASA or something stronger/more heat resistant.

    The next biggest steps are going to be designing a pump handle and feed that I'm happy with. I wanted to install a standard Phantom feed, but I massacred the hole for that and have to take a different approach.



    More to come.
    Originally posted by Terry A. Davis
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    #2
    Thank you for writing up a project thread like this. I love reading build threads like this. Its a huge reason my poo build thread will be a novel when Im finished.

    Your ham fisted, motivated guy with a joint in your mouth speaks to my spirit animal.
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    • RAZRBAKK

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      Bear witness as I break everything.

    #3
    Maybe a threaded insert like the ASP CCI Stainless Thread Inserts or even a helicoil to fix the buggered hole?

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    • RAZRBAKK

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      Yeah I've considered both. Wanted to make sure it would fire before I started tackling that. Definitely the next thing to do.

    #4
    Very nice work, bet that frame is comfortable as hell on there.
    any chance you have the original stock picatinny sight rail that is supposed to go on that body? If so would you be willing to part with it?

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    • RAZRBAKK

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      The first thing that sold, unfortunately.

    #5
    Was the frame not fitting flush to the body before the spacer?
    I would assume yours was one of the ones Wooulf re-profiled to fit Nelson clones.

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    • RAZRBAKK

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      That's who it was. Forgot the username.

      The problem was clearance with the sear. The stock frame has a lot more plastic on top of where the trigger sits than I could make work with this frame.

    #6
    Don't know if it helps you but I once got a Phantom grip frame to work on a Trracer.
    I initially had problems with the sear not properly working too, but I got a spare Empire Trracer sear and grinded it down a bit until it did.

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      I remember this one. Definitely considered a phantom frame, but I wanna see this through with the BL frame.
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