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  • Chemical-x.....ahain
    MCB Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 505

    #1

    Home built warp?

    Has anyone done up a home built warp feed? I feel like it could be a fun project to see different ideas and interpretations.

    Personally I'm stuck at understanding a circuit or what a proper circuit should entail.

    I know warps had a few different ways of operating whether it was via vibration, trigger actuation and I feel like there was a mode that sensed ball/stack pressure or tension and would activate when the tension/force was gone.
  • Trbo323
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 6358
    • Vancouver WA

    #2
    Box rotors are pretty popular and it's essentially the same thing. The rotor has enough force to basically send the paint anywhere and you also don't have to worry about eyes or ears or anything because the sensing system is built into the feed system.

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    • Chemical-x.....ahain
      MCB Member
      • Mar 2023
      • 505

      #3
      While I understand the appeal of the box rotor, I was wanting to see what i could do to mod up my own just as a challenge.

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      • Toestr
        Certified Post Whore
        • Jul 2020
        • 2871
        • Poland, Onterrible

        #4
        Are you talking about something that's a 'booster' for non force fed loaders or just alternative mounting solutions that mount a loader in the same place? There was a plate to mount a halo to a bottomline and run a hose to the feedneck. I believe it was called a 'warpless halo'.

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        • Trbo323
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          • Jul 2020
          • 6358
          • Vancouver WA

          #5
          Yeah are you trying to build a hopper/feed system from the ground up?

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          • Chemical-x.....ahain
            MCB Member
            • Mar 2023
            • 505

            #6
            im not looking to reinvent the warp or anything of the sort, I do though think its posssible to build a warp like contraption whether its heliacal like a Q loader or a platten style such as the warp. I think that its possible to come up with a motor drive system to fool around with, im just scratching my head at the initial starting point in looking for the most applicable motor and circuit type. As mentioned before, its just more of a challenge than anything else that id like to tinker with.

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            • Trbo323
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 6358
              • Vancouver WA

              #7
              Really I think this it's really going to come down to how much you want to do yourself vs use off the shelf parts. You could make your own drive cones for instance, or, you can use readily available halo ones. You could wire up your own eyes and do your own board programming, or, use a halo board and eyes since that work is already done.

              I'm not sure anyone can answer these questions without knowing what you want to do in house vs what you want to buy off the shelf

              Honestly I'd suggest start simple. Make a box rotor in whatever format you want, figure out the mounting and shape you want and then move on to version two where you take everything you learned from the box rotor and go more towards custom/refined in whatever aspects you want.

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              • Chemical-x.....ahain
                MCB Member
                • Mar 2023
                • 505

                #8
                thats along the lines of what id like to do, I am however stuck in finding the name of applicable drive systems to begin researching, which brings us back to the original question. Im stuck in finding a circuit that can auto start stop in relation to motor feedback. I would imagine a stepper would be the logical place to start however this is my very first foray into an electrical project and a stepper system may be more daunting than im initially prepared for.

                so if you were wanting of a similar project, what sort of drive system would you look to begin with?

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                • tyronejk
                  Bunker Buster
                  • Nov 2023
                  • 369

                  #9
                  Motor feedback like sensing torque output from the motor? That could be tricky to implement if you can't find an off-the-shelf motor with that sensor already integrated. Have you considered an RF-compatible board? Like a Prophecy Z2 board?

                  Re-reading your first post about a drive system that senses when load is removed from the feedstack, i think only the rotor does that. Everything else just shoves paintballs in when "firing" and relies on limited torque output from the drive system to avoid crushing paintballs.

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                  • Trbo323
                    MCB Member
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 6358
                    • Vancouver WA

                    #10
                    If I were doing my own board and trying to keep it simple, I'd use eyes.

                    The biggest problem I see is the drive system would have to work like a halo rip drive in that the drive motor would have to wind a spring and the spring would have to spin the drive cone. You couldn't do it as a direct belt drive since the paint stack wouldn't move without the spring pushing it and if it doesn't move the eyes won't see paint passing

                    Well. Now that I'm thinking about it maybe ears. If you could get ears to work well enough you could then do a simple belt/direct drive system since it would still feed without needing the paint to move first

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