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    #1

    Spyder se (speed master?)

    neat spyder
    https://www.ebay.com
    Basically a Kingman GEN1 Spyder Special Edition clone. When Kingman switched SE's from full body to compact bodies these continued production out the back door until sued by Arthur Chan. Before being listed this Speed Master was stripped, cleaned, rebuilt, and tested across a chronograph.
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    That title screams "I know what I've got..." lol
    These are neat since they are the NPS version of the SE. Rare? Not so much by collectability BUT their production numbers were lower since it was a cloned rebadge of the SE so seeing them in the wild is rare.
    Fred aka ChoSanJuan
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    • MrKittyCatMeowFace
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      MrKittyCatMeowFace

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      01-22-2021, 03:47 PM
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      yeah he does that on literally everything he sells lol. but i bought a few things and hes a honest good seller IMO. stuff was described well and pictures showed them accurately. he came down on the prices of the items too. got my black dye 14in raptor barrel from him.
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      ChoSanJuan commented
      01-22-2021, 04:22 PM
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      Cool that you can vouche for him. I was only joking about the title. His listing for this SE/SM is pretty good!
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    That's super cool haha
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      Originally posted by ChoSanJuan View Post
      That title screams "I know what I've got..." lol
      These are neat since they are the NPS version of the SE. Rare? Not so much by collectability BUT their production numbers were lower since it was a cloned rebadge of the SE so seeing them in the wild is rare.
      They are not the NPS version of the SE .... They were the original and the SE is a knock off by Kingman themselves. The Speedmaster came first and was designed by Rob Fox of Paintball Heaven and Kingman backdoored it and sold it as the SE

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      Last edited by Chaos; 01-22-2021, 10:57 PM.
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        Wow, weird... This is the first I've heard this story. Pretty much every time I've heard it and told it, nobody ever corrected it. Off to do some digging...
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          #6
          Originally posted by ChoSanJuan View Post
          Wow, weird... This is the first I've heard this story. Pretty much every time I've heard it and told it, nobody ever corrected it. Off to do some digging...
          Michael Goodman from PNL Paintball in Bridgewater MA knows the whole story..... I filmed an interview with him for Dan Bacci and once it's cleaned up and ready he's going to post it up for everyone

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          Last edited by Chaos; 01-24-2021, 12:30 PM.

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            #7
            its funny, this has been discussed on the old forum, and even on PB N*t**n years and years ago.

            ive been keeping my eye out for one. I had one awhile back, made it into a project, and sold it.

            id be happy with just the trigger at this point. lol i can make the rest work.

            When i asked about it all those years ago on PB, i got a whole bunch of different explanations. And even to this day, it seems like everyone who brings it up, needs to be corrected. lol

            i hardly ever see them around. very neat to have.

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              #8
              If you've ever wanted to know the history behind a Spyder SE and the Speedmaster and what the deal is with the whole situation here's an interview I recorded back in November for Daniel Bacci. This is the raw uncut footage and if Dan never gets the chance to upload it to his channel the way he wants to it may be edited to be more streamlined

              https://youtu.be/R69GXd8fi1I


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