170mph Honda Civic go kart/buggy for sale near me

[scottieb]

I haven't seen anything like this before. I imagine it would be really fun.

http://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1145255363711299/?ref=browse_tab

[Ecapnation]

I can totally see myself dieing in that but not for $20k

[Blackmagic71]

Looks like an absurd amount of fun. Reminds me of a quote I heard from a comedian a while back:

”I don’t want to die…. But I don’t want to be that sure I’m going to live.”

[Trbo323]

I can totally see myself dieing in that but not for $20k

If you have ever heard the story there once was a guy who shoved something like a civic engine in an elongated go kart chassis. He called it the "death kart"


.... It was appropriately named, there was no death kart v2

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[Jordan]

Probably take another 5-10k to get it street legal here... but it would be fun.

[Siress]

"32mpg"

[Tarsun2]

its like the ariel atom cars. (if you want to call them that).

civic Si K20 motors with a supercharger in a tubular frame.
or here in the states i think we got the GM ECOtech cobalt ss supercharged engine.

they did take 2 hyabusa engines and made a v8 out of them as well.

insanity.

[SignOfZeta]

This isn’t a buggy or a kart, FYI. It’s a car. A 1992 Civic. So even with the modern engine this thing is still super light but still 4-6 times the weight of any kart and not a toy of any kind. You want an actual grownup driving this for sure or everyone is going to die.

[SignOfZeta]

its like the ariel atom cars. (if you want to call them that).

civic Si K20 motors with a supercharger in a tubular frame.
or here in the states i think we got the GM ECOtech cobalt ss supercharged engine.

they did take 2 hyabusa engines and made a v8 out of them as well.

insanity.

It’s not anything like an Atom. An Atom is a bespoke tubular chassis. This is a unitized Civic stripped of most of what it was and tubes added later to keep it from folding in half like a table with a wrestler falling through it. The original Civic floor pan is still quite visible. This will be a pretty compromised car because of that. Also it’s front wheel drive which…isn’t the curse it used to be but not any kind of an advantage. It will have a terrific power to weight ratio but it won’t handle like a Caterham or a Miata. It will have huge front grip issues leaving every corner because its weight distribution sucks much worse than an actual 92 Civic.

BTW, the so-called Hayabusa V8s are only sorta that. They are made out of two Hayabusa heads, every other part is custom. It’s not like two bike engines were somehow bolted together and it’s magic. It’s a totally new case, crank, timing system, sump, pistons, intake, exhaust.

Similarly the W16 in the Veyron is not two existing W8 engines attached to each other. It’s an all new W16. I’ve seen people who are pretty respected say otherwise which has always confused me.

[Tarsun2]

it has no doors, like the atom.
it has 4 wheels, like the atom.
its fully "gutted", like an atom.
it has a 4cyl gas engine, like the atom.
its not a practical vehicle, like the atom.
its more a "toy" or play thing, like the atom.
you wouldnt want to drive in the snow or rain, like the atom.
its not (in this form) a mass production vehicle, like the atom.
its light weight like the atom.
almost everything is exposed, like the atom.

to say its nothing like the atom is to miss the whole point. Things can be similar without being identical...

same for the v8. i know its not simply two 4cylinder engines sharing a common crank. there are engines out there that are literally 2 engines connected together (usually diesel), but this is not one of them.
similarly, there are a few v6 engines that were born by simply removing 2 cylinders from a v8. Of course the blocks will have different casting numbers, the internals will be different as well. that does not mean that the v6 didnt originate from the v8 though.

is a spyder fully kit'd with aka parts not still a spyder? even though all the internals have been replaced? the architecture and design can be shared without being exact copies...

[SignOfZeta]

You’re describing what something looks like, not what it is what it does or where it came from which are what is important. If these things both had bodies or were both blue you’d also think they were alike, an Atom and what was once a Civic. Engineering wise they have almost nothing in common other than they are cars with no skin. So they are also exactly like Baja buggies and karts too? Obviously not.

An Atom isn’t “gutted”. It’s a bespoke tubular racing chassis. It never had guts. It isn’t a mass production design stripped of everything it was, an Atom was always like that. It’s not front wheel drive. Its suspension is very well developed. It’s not missing real car bits, it never had them, the customer never wanted them. It has no compromises. Atoms are serially produced. This is a total one of a kind, as useless as an Orange County Chopper, hunk of scrap.

An Atom handles AMAZING in skilled hands. It will crush any production car. It can handle 100 hours of racing without a single thing cracking. This floor pan monster Civic will kill anyone who actually tries to use it. That’s the main issue I’m trying to address. It’s not…done. It’s some BS project someone made out of someone else’s BS project. It will be 10 seconds slower than the Atom, where out it’s tires, and exhaust its driver.

If you were making a toy of the two cars you’d build those toys the same way. The actual things came to be in totally different ways though. These two machines have massively different stories from beginning to end. You may as well be comparing the similarity between Jimmy Hendrix and Kid Rock because they both play electric guitar or that every paintball gun is the same. If you see things more deeply you realize looks aren’t everything.

[Axel]

This tickles my fancy as I always used to say that my old Civic was like driving a go-kart

[SignOfZeta]

This tickles my fancy as I always used to say that my old Civic was like driving a go-kart

It’s true. The greatest tragedy in the modern market is that absolutely nothing sold today can come close to delivering the thrills of even a bone-stock 1992 Civic…even a DX. Those days are gone and todays children will never know anything like having grown up riding exclusively RAV4s, F-150s and other massive trash.

[k_obeastly]

Cool. Death with a cooling breeze.