This is gonna cost me

[punkncat]

Within the last few years I have upgraded my gaming rig to a point that it is far beyond the capabilities of the 10+ y/o 1080/60 monitor I have been using. I recently picked up a cheapo 75hz "gaming" monitor from a friend who needed some quick cash. Suddenly realizing that my system is capable of much more I finally sated my desire to have a large-ish, curved gaming monitor.
I picked up an AOC 27" Curved 2K 144hz model and will be hanging by the window like Kermit watching for the delivery truck, lol.

It is my hope that the current GPU/CPU don't have me turn settings down too far while I await 3xxx series cards to come back in stock near(er) to MSRP. I would like to have a founders 3080, but wish in one hand....When and if I find that I am almost sure I will have to look for a newer CPU/mobo. Funny how that works.

All pretty much because of CP77.

[punkncat]

Freaking astounding performance. The G sync compatibility opened a whole new world of tear free performance without limiting myself on V sync. Picked up between 15-30 frames or more in most of my games along with 2K resolution.

CyberPunk, however.......

[Chuck E Ducky]

I have a 3080 in my new gaming build its amazing.

[2cBillB]

Bought my 2070 super right before the pandemic hit. I would eventually love a 3080 but right now I'm very satisfied.

[bellicose]

Bought a budget gaming pc for my daughter last week. Would have liked to buy the parts and build it with her, but gpu prices are rediculous right now. Did get her a monitor like yours punkncat. That will be sick.

[BrickHaus]

Im in a similar boat. My PC was initially an industrial PC. The MB is decent, but an LGA 1151 socket so it is limited to intel i3, 5, and 7 gen 7 and older.

It has a gen 7 i3 3100 in it now which is my bottleneck to the 1650 super I got used from a buddy. when researching gen I5 and I 7 processors it looks like I wont see much noticable preformabce unless I snag an I7 7900k which is about 400 bucks right now. Not worth it.

Tgat beIng said, I cant get much more out of my system without upgrading motherboards. And like you are all saying, component level stuff is nuts.


Instead I spent a hundred bucks on cooling, and I figure Ill just run it.

I got 2x noctua whisper quiet cooling fans for the front of the case. I also got a cooler master black edition cpu cooler.

I had to cut some support louvers out of my case to get the fans more flow, but it helped a lot. I then messed with the fan speeds ( my case has the standard 120mm out the back, and a 140mm out the top) i slowed those fans down and slightly sped the fronts up. I believe my case has the ever so slightest positive pressure applied to it now. even running 96% my cpu doesnt get over 65* now. ( really only tested in Valheim which isnt that big of a game).

My ultimate goal is to buy a nicer rig once prices come back to earth. Then I have a 12 year old nephew who dreams of a gaming pc. He mowed lawn all last summer to buy a tower, but he also spent his money on Fortnite V bucks while he earned. When he went to buy he only had 300 bucks left and was devistated. He learned a valuable lesson, but now spent 300 bucks on a reburb dell that he wants to upgrade. ( against my recommendations).

Id love to drop this rig in his bedroom and watch his little brain process it.id then run up to micro center to pick up my new one, but man, prices need to take a break first.

[punkncat]

Id love to drop this rig in his bedroom and watch his little brain process it.id then run up to micro center to pick up my new one, but man, prices need to take a break first.

Actually an excellent time for building a PC. The wonky part are the GPU. Mobo, CPU, RAM, storage, PSU are all at very attractive prices right now.
If you are near a MicroCenter, even if over an hour away, they offer great price combo on CPU/mobo. The CPU will be $20-30 cheaper than you can find it most other places, and then offer a $20 additional off for a compatible motherboard. Totally worth the time to go there. I highly suggest setting yourself a hard limit before going through the door....

[BrickHaus]

Actually an excellent time for building a PC. The wonky part are the GPU. Mobo, CPU, RAM, storage, PSU are all at very attractive prices right now.
If you are near a MicroCenter, even if over an hour away, they offer great price combo on CPU/mobo. The CPU will be $20-30 cheaper than you can find it most other places, and then offer a $20 additional off for a compatible motherboard. Totally worth the time to go there. I highly suggest setting yourself a hard limit before going through the door....

Yeah I pass one on my way home from work. It is literally overwhelming in there.

I gotta take my nephew there as I got him a 50 dollar gift card to work on his rig, so maybe Ill peep the mobos again when Im there.

[bellicose]

Actually an excellent time for building a PC. The wonky part are the GPU. Mobo, CPU, RAM, storage, PSU are all at very attractive prices right now.
If you are near a MicroCenter, even if over an hour away, they offer great price combo on CPU/mobo. The CPU will be $20-30 cheaper than you can find it most other places, and then offer a $20 additional off for a compatible motherboard. Totally worth the time to go there. I highly suggest setting yourself a hard limit before going through the door....

The rig I got my daughter has a 1650 Super in it, and the entire pre-built is the same price as just that card by itself. When I finally get a new one for myself, it will be another laptop (has been for the last three rigs), so I won't have to worry about finding an unobtanium RTX.

[punkncat]

Yeah I pass one on my way home from work. It is literally overwhelming in there.

I gotta take my nephew there as I got him a 50 dollar gift card to work on his rig, so maybe Ill peep the mobos again when Im there.

I highly suggest taking a look at their website to get an idea of the items you are looking for/at. The sales staff there has always been (mostly) helpful, but they are SALES staff.

For the nephew and $50, if he doesn't already have an SSD, that is where I would drop that money on a refurb Dell. It likely has a HDD, and that alone will make the experience better, if nothing towards gaming.

[chrislognshot]

Within the last few years I have upgraded my gaming rig to a point that it is far beyond the capabilities of the 10+ y/o 1080/60 monitor I have been using. I recently picked up a cheapo 75hz "gaming" monitor from a friend who needed some quick cash. Suddenly realizing that my system is capable of much more I finally sated my desire to have a large-ish, curved gaming monitor.
I picked up an AOC 27" Curved 2K 144hz model and will be hanging by the window like Kermit watching for the delivery truck, lol.

It is my hope that the current GPU/CPU don't have me turn settings down too far while I await 3xxx series cards to come back in stock near(er) to MSRP. I would like to have a founders 3080, but wish in one hand....When and if I find that I am almost sure I will have to look for a newer CPU/mobo. Funny how that works.

All pretty much because of CP77.

your lucky. i have to build one for photo editing and video editing. and not cheap since need video for video editing and one for gaming. also need at least need 128gb of ram too. so add up how much graphics and video cards cost and ram need for it. around 2.5k to 3k

[BrickHaus]

I have more build questions and I figured Id keep this thread rolling instead of try to start a new one.

So Im at a point where Id say Im happy with my rig, but I kinda wanna buy a few more things to make it better. Thing is, Im not sure whats worth buying vs the next component, as Ill just push the bottle neck around. I figured you guys are much smarter than I am, so Id ask.

Okay so I got this industrial pc made gaming rig.

Quick specs:
MB Jetway Naf591-Q170
Intel I3 7100
16gb dual channel ram
2x 1tb Samsung SSD drives in an Icy Dock hot swap bay.
Seasonic 80 plus Titanium fanless psu
1650 Super gpu
Coolermaster hyper 212 black edition cpu cooler
Noctua case fans.

For the most part, Im happy with it. Ive only really played Valheim and GTA5 enough to test it. Gta runs about 50ish frames if Im driving and or doing something of the sort, and for that game it seems my cpu is running 95% and my gpu is only pushing about 50%.

Valheim is the opposite. As my cpu says its being used much less, but my gpu runs at about 75%.

In all cases everything runs well enough for me with only a chop here and there while auto saves drop. And from my temp monitoring, everything runs cool with the gpu being the hottest thing in the case, but staying around 60c.

As far as my research goes the motherboard is a JetWay NAF591-Q170 which is honestly turning out to be pretty decent short of the lga 1151 socket limiting me to gen 7 intel and older, and no onboard wireless.

So that being said i was eyeballing a few items, and Im not sure whats worth buying vs just playing as it sits.

This motherboard has a M.2 slot in it. I didnt notice, but my buddy who knows a little bit about pcs told me I should get a m2 ssd for that. Ive been researching how much faster these m.2 ssds can be over sata, and I started looking at micro center for them. Here is a snip from the manual - 1 [PCIe x4 M-key, 2242/2260/2280/22110 shared with SATA1(ME FW option) i also want to get one of these because my op system is on one of ssds in a hot swap bay, the other ssd in the bay is game storage. I assume itll corrupt the hell out of the op system if a nephew ejects the ssd on accident.

After looking at them, I figured it wouldnt be worth adding that ssd unless the cpu was upgraded too.(?)
The killer there is the only cpu worth buying for this motherboard is the i7 7700 which is hella spendy these days. But do I really need a new cpu? It is my bottle neck at times, but am I gonna get into anything much harder than GTA before I out run the rest of my pc? It also runs pretty cool with the hyper 212, so I believe I could overclock it, which I honestly dont know how to do.


Then on the other hand, I think, just friggin play with it as its a better rig than most have and I have very little into it as of now.

Advice?

[punkncat]

Advice?

First off, I recommend you NOT consider upgrading the current hardware unless it is specifically with the next in mind. There is no point at all in discussing GPU at this time.

Your only "as is" major upgrade to actual performance would be to find a 7700 and/or K.
For the traditional pricing structure for the i7 it would be a fools errand to spend ~$300 for that. At this particular moment there are a couple of Ryzen 3 that you can't find, and the i3 10100, and i5 10400 that are close enough to or outperform that chip to make sense buying it. You would need an LGA 1200 4xx motherboard, DDR4 (which you already have) and the CPU...and it would cost you LESS than the i7 7700K.

For instance:
UserBenchmark: Intel Core i3-10100 vs i7-7700K

I would HIGHLY suggest you consider an M.2 NVME as your primary (OS) drive. Your other drives can be used for storage, games, etc. Keep in mind that according to your particular OS license you might have to consider adding that to the cost, but if you went with the mentioned i3 you could readily keep it ~$300 total. I would not consider 11th gen Intel. As mentioned above you could go Ryzen as well.

The ONLY reason I would consider continuing with the 7th gen is if you can find an i5/7 used for nearly nothing. Make sure to check the CPU compatibility list for your motherboard before making a final decision.

[BrickHaus]

First off, I recommend you NOT consider upgrading the current hardware unless it is specifically with the next in mind. There is no point at all in discussing GPU at this time.

Your only "as is" major upgrade to actual performance would be to find a 7700 and/or K.
For the traditional pricing structure for the i7 it would be a fools errand to spend ~$300 for that. At this particular moment there are a couple of Ryzen 3 that you can't find, and the i3 10100, and i5 10400 that are close enough to or outperform that chip to make sense buying it. You would need an LGA 1200 4xx motherboard, DDR4 (which you already have) and the CPU...and it would cost you LESS than the i7 7700K.

For instance:
UserBenchmark: Intel Core i3-10100 vs i7-7700K

I would HIGHLY suggest you consider an M.2 NVME as your primary (OS) drive. Your other drives can be used for storage, games, etc. Keep in mind that according to your particular OS license you might have to consider adding that to the cost, but if you went with the mentioned i3 you could readily keep it ~$300 total. I would not consider 11th gen Intel. As mentioned above you could go Ryzen as well.

The ONLY reason I would consider continuing with the 7th gen is if you can find an i5/7 used for nearly nothing. Make sure to check the CPU compatibility list for your motherboard before making a final decision.

Ahh, Punkcat, I was hoping youd give some good insights.

So from what Im gathering, ill snag a 1tb m drive, and leave it at that for now.

From there Ill run this rig until it cant keep up with current production games, then Ill get a motherboard thatll give me better options. And reconsider cpu options then.

Ill also keep an eye on i7 7700s, and if I can get one for around 150 or less, Ill bite, but otherwise Ill bide my time ans save for the the mb.

[chrislognshot]

give tip 1tb not really big enough any more want to have at least 2tb for main drive and secondary drive for other stuff.