Sheridan PGP variant identification

[djeclypse]

I have a pgp with a leaky cup seal. I saw info that I need a special tool, much like I had with my long gone VM68, to remove the valve. I was talking to a guy at the field today who has a later model and I was informed he doesn't need the special tool with his. How can you tell the difference between them? Thanks!

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[RuleOfSines]

Generally, you can look at the stamping on the side of the lower tube. If it starts with a "PA" then it has a cartridge valve and no tool is needed. If it starts with a "P", then you have the original style valve that requires a tool.

It is not a 100% guarantee but a good indicator. To be more sure, you can remove the rear cap, hammer spring, and hammer from the marker and look down the tube. If you see a brass hex nut with the valve stem sticking out from the middle, you need the tool.

[djeclypse]

Generally, you can look at the stamping on the side of the lower tube. If it starts with a "PA" then it has a cartridge valve and no tool is needed. If it starts with a "P", then you have the original style valve that requires a tool.

It is not a 100% guarantee but a good indicator. To be more sure, you can remove the rear cap, hammer spring, and hammer from the marker and look down the tube. If you see a brass hex nut with the valve stem sticking out from the middle, you need the tool.

Looks like I need the tool. Now where to find one. I did a search and saw a few VM tools but no PGP. Thanks, RoS

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[Carp]

If a tool is needed.. You can also DIY...an option at home! You can use..🤔(double check size) 1/4" nut driver by grinding down the sides. If you wanna go really OG use "Copper" tubing, formed into a square(bout 3/8"-1/2" deep/long). You can even add the optional handle and/or nut-pin stop. 😉

[BrickHaus]

You can get em from pps if DIY aint your thing.

[lizardking132]

I got a tool pretty cheap off of this hobby shop website when PPS didn't have any in stock https://alliancehobby.com/valvetool.htm
but they should have them back for sale by now

[Carp]

PPS is currently "out of stock" with valve tools. Might give them a call tomorrow afternoon and see if they could get you 1 shipped out. PPS may have a few still laying around and just haven't updated their website lately. It's still showing PGP Fast Changers in stock though...😁

[AnarchicArctic]

I went the diy route. Didn’t take too long and works well enough. Here’s a video link

[Jordan]

You'll need a good pick to get the lead seal out, too, if the valve's never been out. And a lot of patience.

[XEMON]

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