Anyone out there making Liquid Control Devices?

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  • Walker
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1530
    • WA State

    #1

    Anyone out there making Liquid Control Devices?

    Also known as a bottomline wedge?

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    Lapco sold some for awhile, and so did ANS, but I haven't seen any in years.....
    Last edited by Walker; 03-24-2022, 10:36 AM.
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  • Alexndl
    MCB member
    • Jul 2020
    • 3508
    • Montreal, Qc, Canada

    #2
    Could be easy to 3d print, just not sure what is the maximum angle before the bolt will bind
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    • Walker
      Walker commented
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      the ones from ANS were 30-degrees...

    • Araphel
      Araphel commented
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      Pretty much any angle you want. Just make the holes perpendicular to the mounting surface with a counterbore/spotface on the back side parallel to that surface.
  • Ecapnation
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 4210
    • South Central Long Island

    #3
    Lapco iirc

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    • maggot
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      • Jul 2020
      • 496

      #4
      Hi Walker, I think I have some spare NIP ANS ones IIRC. Lemme know if interested and I can check. Would want to trade and am looking for black cocker LPR, Ram, HPR, or ASAs, or Automag parts.
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      • Walker
        Walker commented
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        Automag wise, all I have is a mismatched valve, bare, CF front that you can unscrew the power tube, MM rear, a powerfeed body, a not so good shape classic rail, and a very not good cast frame. The only Cocker pneumatics I have is a new Palmer Quikpro kit (in black), still in the shrink wrap, and I doubt you want to pay that cost.
    • DocsMachine
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 2700
      • Alaska

      #5
      I've been thinking about making a run of angled bottomlines, like the ones that SP used to sell. If there's any interest (I can post a pic or two) I can sure add it to the queue/

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      • Walker
        Walker commented
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        Post a pix Doc, I'm not sure what those looked like.....
    • Meleager7
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      • Jul 2020
      • 2170
      • Ontario, Canada

      #6
      It is also interesting that if you want to intentionally run a liquid co2 setup (like on an awesome Liquified Electro Spyder), and you have a Siphon tank with the weighted dip tube installed, these wedges are also beneficial, but for the total opposite reason that OP mentioned!
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      • DocsMachine
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 2700
        • Alaska

        #7
        Back in the day, I tended to prefer a down-angled ducktail, and of the various ones available, this style was my favorite. Pretty sure this one came with an early vertical-ASA-mount old-style Max Flow.



        I think the very earliest ones, when SP was getting much of their hard gear from Marksmann in the UK, was a little bit more rounded at the tip, and some were also available tapped on both sides.

        I know regular ducktails are still being made, and cheap, but I haven't been able to find an angled one like these in a while- at least, not new. So I've been toying with the idea of making a small run myself.

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        • SETHZILLA!
          SETHZILLA! commented
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          These are my favorites too. I'll take a few when you start a queue

        • Walker
          Walker commented
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          I'd take 2 or 3 myself......

        • Chuck E Ducky
          Chuck E Ducky commented
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          I would take one of those.
      • Cunha
        Certified Post Whore
        • Jul 2020
        • 2027

        #8
        I know they aren't the same, but tippmann bottomline ASA's are cheap and angled. The later tippmann 98 bottomline ASA's even have an output in the center of the ASA. Could these work?

        Piranha bottomline ASA's were also angled.

        A lot of brands had angled asa's presumably to reduce liquid co2 in the guns.


        https://www.ebay.com/itm/38286646093...IAAOSwnClcm7bi

        https://www.ebay.com/itm/36154400834...8AAOSwT6pV21YO

        not tippmann or pmi but this more like what you're discussing

        https://www.ebay.com/itm/38290045633...MAAOSwzOxcivHo

        ACI style https://www.ebay.com/itm/36372421913...YAAOSwnvthjCee



        there is kind of a lot of standard bottomline ASA's out there, since most people moved to on/off's and subsequently people have used integrated on off's, theres a lot of good hard aluminum bottomlines thay haven't made it to the scrap heap yet.

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        • maggot
          maggot commented
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          These AGD/ACI style ASAs are the best, IMO.  I use em on most of my guns.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/36372421913...YAAOSwnvthjCee
          They're angled, vent hole is in the right spot (aren't hard on tank o-rings), output can be put on either side, play nicely with pretty much any trigger frame / grips, look good too.
      • GrumpySmurf429
        Classic
        • Mar 2022
        • 127

        #9
        Aotococker parts.com sells angled asa’s in colors

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