Non-AT frame converted to AT?

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  • ketzer7
    20 year time machine
    • Apr 2021
    • 252
    • Southern NH

    #1

    Non-AT frame converted to AT?

    Not sure if this has been asked and answered before or not, but can a non-autotrigger Cocker frame be converted to autotrigger capable? Just curious, thanks.
  • shooter311
    Lumbering and loud
    • Sep 2020
    • 1174
    • Maine

    #2
    I assume it just comes down to accepting a AT trigger plate, and have the hole or ability for a hole to be drilled behind the plate for the kit.

    https://autocockerparts.com/slide-fr...trigger-kit-1/

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    • Grendel
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 1979
      • Lexington, SC

      #3
      The simple answer is yes, but how to do that is highly specific to the marker, marker configuration and trigger frame. Is it always practical effort then the general answer would be no. For an Autococker slider triggers and trigger frames are fairly simply modified to enable an auto trigger.


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      • ketzer7
        20 year time machine
        • Apr 2021
        • 252
        • Southern NH

        #4
        More specifically, it would be for a Meteor slider frame in combination with a CCM pre-2k pump kit. Is there any one that offers doing this service?

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        • ChuckLove
          ChuckLove commented
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          I wonder if Fabrice would be able to answer this question? If your on FB hit him up on the Meteor page. Hellion360 Would you have any idea?
      • SignOfZeta
        Space Commie
        • Jul 2020
        • 576
        • Ann Arbor

        #5
        I did this, a 99 WGP cocker pump. Benchmark frame, CCM pump, autocockerparts.com trigger, Inception AT lever…it took me a year to get it working at about %90. It would be easier with the old school kits, honestly. So much work and money, so much frustration, would not do again. This project mainly just reminded me how much better Nelson’s are.

        Verdict: buy a CCM frame for a million dollars and cut your losses.

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        • ketzer7
          ketzer7 commented
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          Sounds like it's not worth it then. Bummer
      • Grendel
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 1979
        • Lexington, SC

        #6
        Just looked at the Meteor Frame and it does not have a hole for a Safety. Typically that it what you would use to place your cam into the trigger area that connects to the AT arm that then is connected (loosely) to the pump arm. You would need to be willing to drill your frame and possibly the trigger plate to use a traditional AT cam. Very doable but given you can not undue the modification holes you need to be sure you want to do it and have to do it right. Timing an AT is not that big if a deal but does take some trial and error for each one. If you take parts from various manufacturers and try to cobble one together your luck may be hit or miss due to tolerance stack up because of the different parts. If I was to do it I would just do it from scratch and make my own parts.

        Never been a fan of auto triggers. I can fire almost as quickly without one on a pump you just have to teach yourself to pull the trigger when you get to the end of you forward travel on the pump.


        "When you are asked if you can do a job, tell 'em, 'Certainly I can!' Then get busy and find out how to do it." - Theodore Roosevelt

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        • ketzer7
          ketzer7 commented
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          I was originally planning on running my Meteor M1 without AT and just not worry about it, but was curious if it was doable with the parts I already had - i.e without spending a fortune on a CCM frame as SignOfZeta alluded to.
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