Barrel Thread ID

[Toestr]

I got this barrel on a ProAm a while back and iirc there was another thread about a barrel with the same threads and it was concluded it was made for something else but also fits ProAm/A5 threaded guns. Unfortunately I can't find that thread. It threads into my ProAm/ProLite but the shank is maybe 1/8" too short when fully screwed in (about the same for exposed threads in the front. This particular barrel has Smart Parts style porting and is pretty chewed up at the breach end.

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[Ecapnation]

Looks like a miss-machined old smart parts

[DocsMachine]

Looks like a miss-machined old smart parts

-No, that's specific for something. SP never made barrels manually (except for the very early days of the drilling) and anything that fell out of the CNC "wrong" would have been discarded, not annoed and sold.

That's a specific thread, which looks familiar, but I'm having a hard time placing. Very rough guesses, possibly old Storm or Master?

Doc.

[Fubarius]

...anything that fell out of the CNC "wrong" would have been discarded, not annoed and sold.

Oh, not necessarily. In my collection I have a SP Stainless All American barrel that was sold as a Raptor barrel, and has the profile and breech length of a Raptor/F1 barrel, but the threading is way finer, seems like Spyder thread. So it's either a Raptor shaped barrel with Spyder threading, or a Spyder threaded barrel with way too long of breech section.

Solid stainless barrels of course aren't particularly popular these days, so I just keep it as an oddity, the barrel that fits nothing.

But I agree with you on the original barrel. Most certainly made for something.

[Toestr]

Oh, not necessarily. In my collection I have a SP Stainless All American barrel that was sold as a Raptor barrel, and has the profile and breech length of a Raptor/F1 barrel, but the threading is way finer, seems like Spyder thread. So it's either a Raptor shaped barrel with Spyder threading, or a Spyder threaded barrel with way too long of breech section.

Solid stainless barrels of course aren't particularly popular these days, so I just keep it as an oddity, the barrel that fits nothing.

But I agree with you on the original barrel. Most certainly made for something.

I'm pretty sure the barrel you're describing is for a Tiger Shark.

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[Fubarius]

I'm pretty sure the barrel you're describing is for a Tiger Shark.

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Most definitely not. The Tigershark has the same thread pitch as the Raptor, but a bit shorter breech section.

Top is Raptor, middle is Tigershark, bottom is Spyder (well, Avenger to be 100% accurate). My oddball barrel has the profile of the top, but the threads from the bottom.

Enough topic drift!

The Storm and Master are guns I really should have added to my collection at some point, just never had a good deal present itself. No pictures of their barrel threads anywhere to be found either, though I remember seeing their threading listed on what was available from Smart Parts back in the day. Of course darn near anything was available from them back then.

[DocsMachine]

Oh, not necessarily. In my collection I have a SP Stainless All American barrel that was sold as a Raptor barrel, and has the profile and breech length of a Raptor/F1 barrel, but the threading is way finer, seems like Spyder thread. So it's either a Raptor shaped barrel with Spyder threading, or a Spyder threaded barrel with way too long of breech section.

-Interesting. I wonder if that's actually a factory error (you'd think whoever bought it in the first place, would have returned it when they found it wouldn't fit) or somebody's home-shop attempt at a rethread.

In either case, chances are pretty slim the OP's barrel is a similar factory error. What we do know is that's definitely early tight-spacing SP drilling, and that puts it far enough back that it could have been for any one of several low-production markers back then.

Again, I swear I've seen that threading before, but I can't place it. Last Storm or Master I had in the shop was nearly twenty years ago, that barrel has no pump scuffing, and I can't think of what else it might be.

Doc.

[Morgenstern]

I had a PEC Combat awhile back that had barrel threading that looked a lot like this but it wouldn’t thread into any Tippmanns I tried it on.

[Ecapnation]

-No, that's specific for something. SP never made barrels manually (except for the very early days of the drilling) and anything that fell out of the CNC "wrong" would have been discarded, not annoed and sold.

Doc.

Oh boy let me tell you about smart parts "oops"sales.

I have a whole bunch of venturi barrels in various threads that went through the whole process of being machined annoed and packaged only for them to realize the threads were cut lefty...... Store sent them back they remachined them right and sent the barrels back.

Much later on at a proshop I worked at we received a production NXT shocker with no barrel threads in the body.

[DocsMachine]

Oh boy let me tell you about smart parts "oops"sales.

-I once got a new-in-the-box "shoebox" Shocker, sent in by a customer who had only unboxed it, aired it up, it almost instantly jammed, and he sent it on to me both for repairs and mods.

When I opened it up, I found it full of swarf- aluminum chips out of a mill.

Thing is, I could not come up with a plausible reason for that. If the unassembled gun was for some reason stacked near an open, manual mill and chips fell into it, you'd think whoever was going to finish assembling and packing it would have cleaned it off.

The only plausible explanation I could come up with was that the gun was deliberately sabotaged by whoever was packing it, OR that he was stoned out of his gourd that day.

Again, however, in this case, I'd wager the chances of that barrel being a factory error, are quite slim. I still say it's far more likely it's for an older, more obscure model of marker. Just because it fits a Pro-Lite doesn't mean anything- that's a nonstandard but still readily available 7/8"-18 thread. A small start-up shop could cut that with a tap, it'd be easy to turn via manual single-pointing, etc. It wouldn't surprise me a bit that more than one maker used the same basic thread specs.

C'mon, this is MCB. Somebody out there must have one of those old, obscure markers that takes this semi-unique breech thread.

Doc.

[scottieb]

This is not the first time I've heard this story. It reminds me of a time at Circuit City (remember that place? That will date you) where a customer brought in a computer tower saying that it wasn't working quite right. Immediately I heard a rattling on the inside of the tower. When I opened the tower, a Lego piece fell out.

[maggot]

I think those 3(?) indentations near the threads are a clue. Did any production markers use some type of quick-strip screws to further secure the barrel?

[DocsMachine]

I think those 3(?) indentations near the threads are a clue. Did any production markers use some type of quick-strip screws to further secure the barrel?

-I figured those were for something like the old clamp-on vertical foregrips. There's no marker that I can think of that used setscrews and threads to retain the barrel.

Doc.

[un2xs]

Possible long shot... does a Pro-AM barrel fit a Pro-Lite? If so, did somebody modify this to fit an ICE Panther?

ICE <== Indian Creek Engineering before it became Indian Creek Designs

[Toestr]

Assuming the Panther used the same threading as later 'cat blowbacks then definitely not. I also saw the Master's barrel threads in QMTO's video and it looked nothing like this. The shank was much longer.

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[Brokeass_baller]

BrickHaus you have a Panther threaded Puma, right? Would you happen to have a pic of the barrel threads?

[BrickHaus]

I sold that puma, and the buyer apparently was able to get other ICD barrels to thread into it. Though I had like 8 ICD barrels and only the one worked with it? Im chalking that whole thing up to a bur I guess.

[un2xs]

Any other Panther owners want to post a barrel photo? Otherwise, I can see about commencing the archeological dig in my bedroom to find my Panthers. I think I have both an original barrel and a modified Armson Pro-Lite barrel.

[Toestr]

Ok, so I feel very dumb. I got this with a Pro-Am, and I immediately tried it on the pro lite I also have. That's when I noticed the fitment issue. Well imagine my surprise when I thread this into the Pro-Am today and it fits perfectly. Apparently the Am has a longer threaded section on the barrel vs the Lite. Lite barrels thread fine into the Am but not the reverse.

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