I had two MVPs at different times. The pump stroke was great, the pump handle kind of sucked, and the farting was annoying(but fixable). I found that the MVP was one of the most natural pointing open class guns for myself. It just pulled up and was inline for my aim. My first MVP had no issues with the auto trigger, but the second did. I changed out one of the orings to reduce the farting and that helped significantly, but it never was as quiet as my T2 was. I never paid more than original retail for one, but can honestly say the prices they go for now are not worth it. I milled a vendetta pump handle to fit on my first phantom and it was far more comfortable to hold. The second had a ccm ez grip and that was the way they should have been released. A phantom with dual UC kit is just as smooth(slightly heavier) and points about the same. Now if they had released an updated phantom with an air through grip you would be set.
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