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  • djeclypse
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    • Feb 2021
    • 596

    #1

    Cocker noob, need some help

    I was always a Tippman guy, but the nostalgia and engineering of the cocker has grabbed my eye. I have 3 projects I could use some help with.

    I have had a stock Trilogy Pro for a while which I am looking to turn into a sleeper. It worked perfectly with the BL Torpedo, FF Soft A F Bolt, and Freeflow Hammer and spring. I changed the valve to an AKA Tornado and it cycles but doesn't reach proper velocity.

    I also have a 2k with a Palmers Stab which I changed the LPR to an ID and now it is a single shot, velo seems ok but doesn't recock.

    Lastly, I picked up a 2k4 Prostock project with a WGP BM HPR and put on a 2k slider and it slams to the rear when aired up. I'd seen an issue with this before so I swapped the LP lines on the ram and then it is a single shot.

    Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated!

    Pics below for reference
  • XEMON
    Frenchy is here!
    • Jul 2020
    • 3029
    • Nor Cal

    #2
    Too high of a pressure or mismatched springs could be an issue on the trilogy.

    For the other 2, a quick video might help. I've had it happen because the 3 way actuator didn't travel at the proper position. Again, a quick video would help.
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    • Trbo323
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 6358
      • Vancouver WA

      #3


      Originally posted by djeclypse
      I was always a Tippman guy, but the nostalgia and engineering of the cocker has grabbed my eye. I have 3 projects I could use some help with.

      I have had a stock Trilogy Pro for a while which I am looking to turn into a sleeper. It worked perfectly with the BL Torpedo, FF Soft A F Bolt, and Freeflow Hammer and spring. I changed the valve to an AKA Tornado and it cycles but doesn't reach proper velocity.

      I also have a 2k with a Palmers Stab which I changed the LPR to an ID and now it is a single shot, velo seems ok but doesn't recock.

      Lastly, I picked up a 2k4 Prostock project with a WGP BM HPR and put on a 2k slider and it slams to the rear when aired up. I'd seen an issue with this before so I swapped the LP lines on the ram and then it is a single shot.

      Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated!

      Pics below for reference
      Trilogy is either too much HPR pressure or not enough spring in the hammer

      2k probably a lug adjustment

      2k4, I'm betting you have your 3 way hoses swapped around. On a hinge frame the front 3 way hose goes to the front of the ram. On a slider frame the front 3 way hose goes to the back of the ram. Either that or the 3 way is adjusted way out

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      • k_obeastly
        Bunker Buster
        • Aug 2020
        • 449

        #4
        on the 2k4, if you've already switched your LP lines, it's probably time to adjust the collar on your timing rod. It sounds like you are not cycling the 3 way enough to switch it.

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        • djeclypse
          Certified Post Whore
          • Feb 2021
          • 596

          #5
          Trilogy I should have known. Definitely an ID-10-T error on my part as I swapped in a valve that uses way less pressure. Thanks.

          2k4 I will have to tinker with but that makes total sense now. May need to watch a few videos.

          The 2k I didn't change anything but the LPR. I don't have much air left so not sure if that will get done before my next trip to the field. This one is the external adjustable ID so I tried making small changes but it didn't seem to make any difference.

          Thanks for the help!

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