mokal mirage repair....................

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  • COMMANDERBOND
    Bunker Buster
    • Jul 2020
    • 160
    • NS Canada

    #1

    mokal mirage repair....................

    mokal mirage repair...i am wondering about servicing these. problem 1 -hammer springs are worn causing low velocity - aroung 230 fps.
    Springs are hard to replace.
    Problem 2:Special difficult t0 Find o-rings.
  • shooter311
    Lumbering and loud
    • Sep 2020
    • 1174
    • Maine

    #2
    I recently rebuilt a Mirage (screw in barrel one), I don't remember their being any odd orings. My standard o-ring kit had all the ones I needed. I t was a super easy rebuild.

    Springs might just be a trial and error thing. I am sure it is designed to be 850psi CO2, and HPA tanks tend to be less. You could try shimming the spring as a quick fix until you find a replacement.

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    • shooter311
      Lumbering and loud
      • Sep 2020
      • 1174
      • Maine

      #3
      This is a Mirage O-ring kit.

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/26322559559...3ABFBM8OOT0NBh

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      • COMMANDERBOND
        Bunker Buster
        • Jul 2020
        • 160
        • NS Canada

        #4
        "could try shimming the spring as a quick fix"
        I tried shimming with very small washers and they interfered with re cocking. The hammer o-ring has a grove in the face that flares when gun fires.

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        • COMMANDERBOND
          Bunker Buster
          • Jul 2020
          • 160
          • NS Canada

          #5
          i hoarded the mokals so hopefully i can get some parts.

          like the blue one...

          https://www.manuf-rubber.com/news/bu...he-difference/
          Last edited by COMMANDERBOND; 02-24-2023, 05:12 PM.

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          • Brokeass_baller
            Brokeass_baller commented
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            That style spring seal is actually really common in hydraulic and steam applications. Might be able to source something usable through an industrial supplier.
        • Toestr
          Certified Post Whore
          • Jul 2020
          • 2871
          • Poland, Onterrible

          #6
          It's a U cup seal. I'd imagine it's just an off the shelf part. With that said, there are different types of U cup seals and I'm not sure on the differences between them or how they're measured. I have a Mokal Fokus that also used a U cup seal on the hammer and I was able to replace it with a 111 oring.

          Given that you're a Mokal fiend, would you happen to have a Powerfeed Fokus that you'd be interested in parting with?

          Sent from my Pixel 4a using Tapatalk

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          • COMMANDERBOND
            COMMANDERBOND commented
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            you happen to have a Powerfeed Fokus? SORRY NO JUST MIRAGES
        • infamoussmiley
          .
          • Jul 2020
          • 629

          #7
          Last I saw and heard from MOKAL, there are no parts anymore. That was ten years ago. You are at the phase of the marker's life where you should start looking for substitutes for obsolete parts, OR look into making the parts.

          Smiley

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          • Morgenstern
            Bunker Buster
            • Jan 2021
            • 173

            #8
            It’s been awhile since I rebuilt a mirage but like Toestr’s experience, I think I was able to just use a solid regular oring on the hammer to get it to recook just fine. Make sure the side air-choke screw is backed out as far possible without it falling out to get maximum velocity out of the spring you have. Not sure what diameter hammer springs they take

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            • COMMANDERBOND
              Bunker Buster
              • Jul 2020
              • 160
              • NS Canada

              #9


              "the side air-choke screw"

              I Thought these screws were to retain the valve. thanks-this opens opportunities

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              • COMMANDERBOND
                Bunker Buster
                • Jul 2020
                • 160
                • NS Canada

                #10
                whats the purpose of the blue hollowed out orings?

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                • COMMANDERBOND
                  Bunker Buster
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 160
                  • NS Canada

                  #11
                  new issue .............

                  Mokal surprise? I have about 7 or8 mokal mirage
                  mirages that it turns out are different. There are other variants, they are almost identical in appearance. I have 2 where the upper receiver is 1’ longer than other. I have one valve that slides easily into receivers’ while the other valves jam (can’t find 1’’ micrometer, and Vernier has a dead battery lol)

                  Reason I persist is because one of my customs is a mokal. They are easy to mod into Thompson. Sten. m3 grease gun. etc

                  Does anyone know if the grommet screws line up with the narrow or wide grooves that position the valve? cant remember- these sat for a while
                  thanks

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