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    Sleeper gun

    I am pretty sure this has been asked before in the past, but I am old and I think it was before the great crash of the forum. If one was to want to build a sleeper gun, would you start with an old Tippman 98 body or an old Spyder clone body? I have even considered trying to find some old furniture that still has "Rental" stamped on it or dragging the furniture through the dirt to give it the right look.

    #2
    I'd probably go with either an Ion (not really much of a sleeper) or a Spimmy conversion (Early intimidator in a Spyder body).

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      #3
      Either would do... I dunno what I'd actually prefer though. I just built a Spyder, so this makes me wanna build a Tippmann now, lol.
      I feel like the Tippmann would be less finicky for tuning, but Spyders come apart way easier. IMO it's a horse a piece from a mechanical standpoint.

      For anything non-Spyder... Maybe an early B2K or BKO? The tallest, clunkiest looking electro you can find but souped up under the hood.
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        #4
        I’ve got a Tippmann A-5 that is sort of in the sleeper category. Not flashy at all, no extra unless body kit parts, only giveaway is the Karni reg but most wouldn’t recognize it. Reg is dust black so generally matches the body. A5 was a zero kick bolt with RT so shoots quite well for a Tippmann.
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          #5
          I think Tippmann would be better. Something like a female stabilizer into a gas-thru grip in a V/A. Make it look like you just have an expansion chamber and a wonky ASA but it's really a low pressure conversion. Zero kick hammer, e-grip or at the very least TechT Hair Pin kit. An e-bolt build would be even better, ego board with a battery in the front grip. Still use a female stab but with no volumizer, should get you don't into the 500 PSI range. Beat to hell body. Either way, that would be a fun gun.

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            #6
            An old 98, with the gills.

            Stick a spool engine in it, like an EMEK.

            Bonus points for PALs compatitability and use of a DW hAIR trigger.
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              #7
              Anything can easily be a sleeper if you do it right, soft goods are really what most people notice....

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                #8
                Originally posted by Lotus View Post
                I'd probably go with either an Ion (not really much of a sleeper) or a Spimmy conversion (Early intimidator in a Spyder body).
                I'd go with an Ion as well. Mech it, swap the shell for something homemade. Hell, with a mech conversion, the frame could be anything that accommodates the body's mounting screw holes. Then figure out where the reg will go and bam.

                I had a handful of different rigs sketched up with a mech ion as the base. But i neither had the time nor the resources to follow through. They ranged from a Mandalorian style gauntlet to a walking cane straight from the Quartermaster from James Bond movies/books.

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                  #9
                  Like I said the furniture should look old, beat-up, I guess ghetto...bought from some no name pawn shop. I plan on making the internals completely upgraded as much as possible. I figure if I walk-on the field decked in a hoody, jeans and have the hopper on backwards with a rubber-band holding the cover on...or would that be too much?

                  I did not want to step out with something obviously electro like an Ion, although that is appealing for a different reason and a different project.

                  Classic Autococker and Automag bodies would swing the other way.

                  I just moved to a new state, and want to check out the scene, but if the walk-ons have the usual bunch of speedballer bums that rolls over beginners and makes it where nobody has a good time, the I want to drag something to play with. When I was in SoCal, I managed to pull off the newbie gag, with an A5 at HSP for two games, before a Ref recognized me.

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                    #10
                    Man building a sleeper would be so cool, don't have the know-how, but certainly happy someone out there is doing gods work.

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                      #11
                      There is so much that can be made with a tippy.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BenoitOWN View Post
                        There is so much that can be made with a tippy.
                        Sounds like one vote for Tippmann

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                          #13
                          another vote for the tippmann route from me, if only because no one will know what a spyder is unless they are old like us. thus attracting attention and foiling your plan.

                          there are so many ways to do it, you could use some ancient rental receiver halves, or maybe a cronus as the exterior.

                          from there the internals go as far as you want to take it. an electro upgrade would go great with a single trigger. a short barrel upgrade that looks stock. techt hairpin trigger kit and lighter springs all around. polished internals of course. get really weird with a low pressure kit or an e-bolt...

                          mech ion might make more sense if your local rents out spool markers, though. its all about blending in.
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                            #14
                            Get an A5 and do the DM6 mod.

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                            • glaman5266
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                              I've never heard of this. Off to Google.

                            • Chuck E Ducky

                              Chuck E Ducky

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                              A friend of mine modified a Tippmann A5 to hold DM6 internals. Still had all the shooting modes and everything. I think there was a write up on it before MCB got Nuked.

                            • glaman5266
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                              Yeah, I found nothing on Google. But that sounds amazing!
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