Spyder O-Ring Kits - Who sells the better kit?

[mmblake]

I 'm getting back into paintball after a long battle with illness. I have 2 spiders that need oring rebuilds. Flasc sniper seems to be out of business. Who else sells oring kits for the spyder?

[glaman5266]

If it’s an early/mid 2000s or newer Spyder then it would be a slim striker model, meaning it will take the same o-ring for every seal in it. A nice design feature. 015 is the size for slim striker models. And 015 happens to be the size of your tank o-rings.

Use urethane for the bolt & hammer (urethane is better for dynamic/kinetic seals). Buna-nitrile can be used for everything else (non-moving/static seal). I would just buy some of each & replace when needed.

EDIT: If it’s an older, fatty-striker model you might be able to use a 016, though I’m not 100% on that size. Again, use urethane for the striker.

A good rule is do not use dyed/colored o-rings. The dyes can make them weaker & wear out faster. Get o-rings in their natural color. Urethane should be clear-ish, buna will likely be black.

[Pumpytrilly1]

If it's a older one and you don't use CO2. Buna 15/70 tank orings will work on almost everything but striker. I buy the striker oring from ans gear.

Home depot sells them too under danco brand in plumbing but more expensive.

[Trbo323]

A good rule is do not use dyed/colored o-rings. The dyes can make them weaker & wear out faster. Get o-rings in their natural color. Urethane should be clear-ish, buna will likely be black.

That's not true. I've been using colored o rings for close to a decade now and haven't noticed anything. My dm6 still has the original batch of colored rings I bought in it and sealed up just fine the last time I had it out (6 or so months ago) If you buy crappy o rings you get crappy results, I think that's all that happened here. Not all manufacturers are the same and the dye is what got blamed over bad manufacturing.

Theoringstore.com is where a lot of us get our rings from heres a few links for you

Size 015 70 durometer buna, 2 cents each

https://www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=367_23_22&products_id=1114

Size 015 70 durometer urethane, 22 cents each

https://www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=367_454_453&products_id=16049

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[glaman5266]

It may or may not be true, but I still would rather use o-rings in their normal colors. Fewer variables for something to get screwed up in the manufacturing process. I don’t f around. Fewer variables are better, period.

The O-Ring Store requires an account to purchase from them. No guest checkout option. If that’s a concern for people.

[Trbo323]

It may or may not be true, but I still would rather use o-rings in their normal colors. Fewer variables for something to get screwed up in the manufacturing process. I don't f around. Fewer variables are better, period.

The O-Ring Store requires an account to purchase from them. No guest checkout option. If that's a concern for people.

If it were true at all that it was specifically the dye then I should have seen it in 10 years. At this point I've rebuilt and sold markers to customer A. Years later customer B comes in with the same marker so I get to see the rings again for a rebuild. Often there's also a mix of colored and black that I put in, no extra failures in the dyed ones than the black ones.

Quality in, quality out
Crap in, crap out

Some of the worst o rings I've ever had were black buna. I ended up throwing that whole batch out because I couldn't trust them. Many were just cast wrong. (Thanks ANS for selling such quality products)

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[Psycho91]

Good to know all the orings are the same for newer sypders, got a couple ill be building at some point and I have a whole bag of those green hammer orings that are supposed to be better

[Trbo323]

Good to know all the orings are the same for newer sypders, got a couple ill be building at some point and I have a whole bag of those green hammer orings that are supposed to be better

Just depends on what they are made of and who makes them

Also if your Spyder has a regulator on it, the regulators do need a few different sizes

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[glaman5266]

Often there's also a mix of colored and black that I put in, no extra failures in the dyed ones than the black ones.

Quality in, quality out
Crap in, crap out

Some of the worst o rings I've ever had were black buna. I ended up throwing that whole batch out because I couldn't trust them. Many were just cast wrong. (Thanks ANS for selling such quality products)

I’m sure there are decent dyed o-rings out there. But I consider the dyeing of the o-rings to be asking for trouble. You said it- quality in, quality out, crap in, crap out. Dyeing them introduces variables in their manufacture. I don’t like variables, so dyed o-rings are an instant no-buy for me. As far as I’m concerned, dyed o-rings are automatically flawed.

Quality o-rings from a reputable source in their natural color are the best o-rings you can buy. I’d recommend nothing other than that.

I made my recommendation to the OP based on what I would do & what I believe to be the best route to go in general. I did that three posts ago. I’m done here. 👎

[mmblake]

So this is very helpful. I'm at the oring store now. How do i look up different durometers? I'm looking for size 15 in buna or viton in 55 durometer.

[mmblake]

I talked with customer service. If I know the exact sizes and duromaters, I can order the rings. Is there a place on MCB that has oring sizes?

[Trbo323]

I talked with customer service. If I know the exact sizes and duromaters, I can order the rings. Is there a place on MCB that has oring sizes?

Not really, a lot of times it's in the manuals but not always.

If you are only looking for spyders though all you really need is 015

The guys that run the o ring store have a paintball background so feel free to ask them stuff as well

When you go to the store, go to the drop down menu and into categories you are looking for "AS568 standard inch o rings"

Then it will give you the materials they have

When it opens up you are looking for the "duro" number. Circled here in blue


70 durometer is fairly standard in paintball, there are some 90 options as well here and there (tank o rings specifically are TYPICALLY polyurethane/urethane 90 durometer for example)

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[Trbo323]

Also if you are looking to build a whole kit for markers beyond spyders you can just order basically every size in as568 buna 70 000 sizes. I stock everything from 003-022 and that's done me fairly well through the years

There's a handful in the 100 series that are useful and I've only recently started carrying metrics because I've run into enough cases where I've needed them.

First thing though if you want to do that is figure out what you are going to hold them in. A case is highly preferred but figuring out how many slots you have will determine how many sizes you can order

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[mmblake]

thank you. this helps.

For the 100 series of oring that you mention, what are the applications of them in paintball?